Current Problem Parallels

[BrokentoothMarch]

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CB3 is an internal unit within Square Enix, which created FF 4.



Same company. Same access to all content created by said company. CB3 is an internal team only, and remains part of Square Enix.

Hence my analogy is dead right.

N... No it's not. A publisher of a book doesn't get to pull from different of its own books to make a new book with a new writer. Trust me. Contracts are a thing.

But keep thrashing and pretending your opinion matters. Lord knows you're too braindead to engage with seriously.

[Theodric]

Although references have always been a part of the franchise, XIV is particularly jarring in that it often simply uplifts large swathes of content from previous games and places them directly into XIV's world. This has two consequences - fans of the references rarely get to explore them to the full capacity (since although I love Ivalice, so little of the 'Ivalice' placed into XIV is even accessible). Furthermore, original content - such as the Void Ark raids - is usually a one and done affair that is never referenced again.

Worse yet, we've even got content directly lifted from games other than Final Fantasy. The Monster Hunter and Nier crossover content immediately springs to mind.

I just hope FFXVI is allowed to largely be its own thing. Some references here and there, though maybe it'll be free of weirdness like how FFXV had American Express credit card adverts in-game...

[VelKallor]

N... No it's not. A publisher of a book doesn't get to pull from different of its own books to make a new book with a new writer. Trust me. Contracts are a thing.

So is reading.

Final Fantasy IV, known as Final Fantasy II for its initial North American release, is a role-playing video game developed and published by Square (now Square Enix)

Developer and publisher both.

https://na.finalfantasy.com/copyrights

Looks like you missed that. I guess you also missed the combat music inside Bestways Burrows.

[EagleDynamics]

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do you have any actual proof that cb3 has complete access to all content created by square enix? simply saying that cb3 belongs to square enix doesnt mean they do.

[Raoabolic]

I'm not seeing the part where he claimed they were and Pandaren weren't some new invention that came with MoP either, technically. Unless you... "didn't know" and assumed that was his comparison.

Shh... don't let them know. I want to see the surprise on their face when we go full WoW in 8.0, lol.

[Rolder50]

Love it when I pop into one of these threads and it's just one person with a horrendously bad take being dog piled on.

[Mapleine]

WoW took a fist to the chin because it slowly turned itself into a glorified KMMO and abandoned anyone who fell behind. M+, borrowed power, system upon system with no safety nets, alt mechanics or catchup, etc.

Lets not even get into how absolutely integral to modern WoW boosting and RMT with the token is.

None of these other reasons did anything to WoW, every single thing you mentioned existed since vanilla.

Tie all this together with the fact that most of WoW's content just isn't very good anymore outside of their major raid releases and that's that.

I'd imagine XIV's problems have precious little to do with anything balance related. XIV just needs some midcore content and to stop buckling EVERYTHING to the MSQ. I love the MSQ, we all do, it revived FF and it's the biggest part of the game but it needs to stop being this monolith that chains everything in the game down.

[AziraSyuren]

Although references have always been a part of the franchise, XIV is particularly jarring in that it often simply uplifts large swathes of content from previous games and places them directly into XIV's world. This has two consequences - fans of the references rarely get to explore them to the full capacity (since although I love Ivalice, so little of the 'Ivalice' placed into XIV is even accessible). Furthermore, original content - such as the Void Ark raids - is usually a one and done affair that is never referenced again.

Worse yet, we've even got content directly lifted from games other than Final Fantasy. The Monster Hunter and Nier crossover content immediately springs to mind.

I just hope FFXVI is allowed to largely be its own thing. Some references here and there, though maybe it'll be free of weirdness like how FFXV had American Express credit card adverts in-game...

The whole "ripping content from other games" was actually pretty well-executed in the Crystal Tower. FF3 was very well-represented there. But FF3 is also my least favorite FF game, so I didn't really get anything out of it.

The Ivalice and Omega raids were pretty horrid as far as game representation goes, though, as fun as the actual gameplay of that content was. I'm still disappointed that they used Chaos in Omega instead of an MSQ storyline or a raid series dedicated to it. Chaos being the big bad in the greater FF multiverse in the Dissidia games really made me feel like he deserved something more.

[KizuyaKatogami]

The whole "ripping content from other games" was actually pretty well-executed in the Crystal Tower. FF3 was very well-represented there. But FF3 is also my least favorite FF game, so I didn't really get anything out of it.

The Ivalice and Omega raids were pretty horrid as far as game representation goes, though, as fun as the actual gameplay of that content was. I'm still disappointed that they used Chaos in Omega instead of an MSQ storyline or a raid series dedicated to it. Chaos being the big bad in the greater FF multiverse in the Dissidia games really made me feel like he deserved something more.

Ofc it was well executed for ff3. Guess which ff is yoshi p's favorite? He clearly doesnt care much about the other ff's though seeing as every other ff type reference afterwards has been pretty meh. Especially with Eden, where someone asked why we didnt have more ff8 bosses and he just says "this is ff14 not ff8." As if he didnt literally shove the crystal tower to be a main focal point of the msq and had 3 raids tied to them.

[EnigmaticDodo]

Just gotta say, you folks arguing for like 5 pages really didn't accomplish anything. Nor will this post, baybee!!!!

FF14 is going to continue to 'casualize' until its even more unrecognizable than it is now. Casuals should be offended tbh, the devs think you can't work out how to do anything, really. See: Very Easy duty modes, the gutting of all the classes, turning anything unique in classes into the same thing, etc etc.

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