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[Adamantini]

No one ever has heard of that little "rule"..I certainly never have, Ive been around for decades. It isnt a mistake at all.

Maybe you should start to play more video games, and hear the background music.

I loved every minute, It all came together quite nicely. Did it make me cry? Yes. But not for the reasons you might think.

So I must believe that you can explain me better about the expansion's history. For example: Who is Zoldiark after all? How did Hydaelin imprison the Zoldiark on the moon? Why didn't Hydaelin save Hyth and Emet from being wiped out? Why does a blue meteion appear among the black meteions asking them to stop, and she is never mentioned again? What happened to the person who was turning in Foundation? Why did Hydaelin make the Ascians unsundered? After all, does Emet like Hydaelin or not? Why Hydaelin never told us anything about Meteion? What is "hear feel think" anyway? How many hours of gameplay did I have, and how many hours of cutscenes did I have?

They didnt die. They never died.

Turned to dust and my character was sad, while i knew they would return in 3 quests. Come on, Yshtola dies every expansion. It's getting boring for a scion to die or disappear.

Urianger's meeting with Moenbryda's parents resonated with me far far deeper than even i expected(...)

Yeah, yeah... Unnecessary drama. That scene had written "please cry"

Um...I sell stuff every single day. Maybe your prices are too high?

Or maybe your prices are too low.

blablabla about mod

Ok, and the bots? They will deal with them?


You may have loved the expansion, but it has flaws. Holes in the story (even the scions act weird), timing error (in the midst of the chaos, they thought it was a good idea to add cute and funny scenes), failure to finalize the content (LL is full of questions about the lore that they said they were ending in 6.0). For real? This expansion looks like it was written by 2 people, one wanted to make the story about the end of time, and the other about how cute loporrits are

[Saraide]

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It really does feel like at some point you lost the story and just refused to pay any attention afterwards. Lets try to TLDR through some of those questions atleast. Zodiark is a god created to fix the celestial aetherflow, effectively creating an aether shield to ward off the dynamis bombarding etherys. Afterwards they tried to sacrifice even more people to recreate their perfect utopia. Hydaelyn sundered him (and the world) which made him very weak. That allowed her to magically imprison him in the moon.
Hythlodaeus had already sacrificed his soul to Zodiark, she couldnt have saved him. While emet selch got away from the sundering on his own. The blue meteion is the one that didnt personally get corrupted by despair, the network just took over and drowned her out. When the network is destabilizing she can make her voice heard again but not for long. Ultimately the network's despair is defeated and she can fall silent. Why would she be mentioned again?
The person turning in the foundation is the blasphemy in the caster role story, I take it you just havent done that quest line.
Leaving Emet-Selch, Lahabrea and Elidibus unsundered is in parts time travel weirdness, they always needed to be there for the story to play out like this but who is to say that hydaelyn even had an oppurtunity to sunder them. There is nothing inherently stopping from the story playing out in a way that doesnt include ascians or rejoinings. My interpretation is that she never had the chance to sunder them and therefore we always would have had to deal with them.
Emet-Selch probably liked Venat (in his own cranky way) but her betraying the convocation put them in direct opposition.

Hydaelyn wanted us to find out the pieces of the puzzle for ourselves so that we would have the clarity and resolve to face despair itself. So that we would fight for ourselves and not just because someone told us to. Borrowed convictions crumbles easier in the face of overwhelming despair. Meteion also wasnt really relevant as long as zodiark was still alive.

"Hear, song of creations end. Feel, the sorrow of hope's demise. Think, and find your way in the darkness." It's a response and preperation for meteion when she says "I wish to hear your words, share your feelings, know your thoughts". We wont defeat her by power alone, we need to conclude her mission with atleast one hopeful planet.

Y'shtola never died, she used crack teleport magic twice, got heavily injured by zenos once and terraformed the path with her soul like the rest of the scions in ultima thule. Was she close to dying multiple times? yea sure

I am not surprised you didnt care for moenbryda's parents, you clearly didnt care for the story in general at that point. It is an important step for urianger tho. There's also a side quest about papalymo's dad. Those people still exist and telling the parents of your former comrades of their death shouldnt be a light hearted scene.
The lopporits only make sense if they are cute and approachable. They are supposed to welcome the people onto their new home on the moon, do you want the housekeepers to look approachable or do you want them to look like behemoths? At this point I get the impression you want the story to be bad to have excuse for not paying attention. You're just taking story points and ask 'why do they make sense, i dont want them to'.

[Adamantini]

It really does feel like at some point you lost the story and just refused to pay any attention afterwards.

Ok, Let's go again.

Zodiark is a god created to fix the celestial aetherflow, effectively creating an aether shield to ward off the dynamis bombarding etherys.

Okay, so what are your thoughts? Did he need those sacrifices? Is it his source of power? why did he need them to do this for him? And if he was this way because they made him this way, Hydaelin knew it was going to go wrong, she could have gotten better.

Hydaelyn sundered him (and the world) which made him very weak

Yeah, that everyone know. But the real question here is "How"? If she had the power to subdue a god, why didn't she do something to defend her people?

The blue meteion is the one that didnt personally get corrupted by despair, the network just took over and drowned her out.

If Meteion functions as a "single mind", having one off the grid is a plot hole.

The person turning in the foundation is the blasphemy in the caster role story, I take it you just havent done that quest line.

So why it's in the main quest?

My interpretation is that she never had the chance to sunder them and therefore we always would have had to deal with them

It's the end of a story. It cannot have "I think" "my interpretation". It's over, we were supposed to be sure

Hydaelyn wanted us to find out the pieces of the puzzle for ourselves so that we would have the clarity and resolve to face despair itself.
(...)"Hear, song of creations end. Feel, the sorrow of hope's demise. Think, and find your way in the darkness." It's a response and preperation for meteion when she says "I wish to hear your words, share your feelings, know your thoughts". We wont defeat her by power alone, we need to conclude her mission with atleast one hopeful planet.

For me Meteion had not been planned before. "protect, Zoldiark, Moon". 3 words, a series of doubts, a better ending. For years we would wonder "protect who? Zoldiark? But isn't Hydaelin good and Zoldiark bad? Moon? What's on the moon?"
In the end, everything would fall into place, much better than "hear, feel, think"

Y'shtola never died, she used crack teleport magic twice, got heavily injured by zenos once and terraformed the path with her soul like the rest of the scions in ultima thule. Was she close to dying multiple times? yea sure

independent, is already boring in the same way. Every expansion is the same thing. There's already a bet going on between my friends when Yshtola will "die", and a scion will disappear

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