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    Rhela Tsurugi
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I can't help but wonder how many of the issues stem partly from executive meddling trying to make sure XIV gets as little funding as possible while still bringing in profits.

    The dev team is on record as being woefully understaffed in multiple places, though they are also painfully out of touch in some regards like the whole healer debacle and the fact that the Eureka bots are making the content virtually unplayable on lower population DCs.
    Corporate greed of SE is something that worries me about the future of FF14 as well. With the CEO's want to get into NFTs and the selling of some of their highest profile IPs for said NFTs I have a feeling that the profits from FF14 are being funneled into projects that are doomed to fail. Like Saraide said, Babylon's Fall is a great example of this greed.
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    Maetimoht Berkbraena
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    Wow, you doomer. How dare you come onto here and say what I've known for a while now? You think you can just walk in here and say this? Walk past all these people hooked up to their copium? AND SAY THIS!?
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    Cyric Eladriel
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    Behemoth
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    PS: I can't stand SE calling me stupid during cutscenes anymore. I remember what happened 2 minutes ago, no need to flashback
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

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    Did all you WoW people like take a time machine from 2008 when it was still relevant
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    Mother Kos
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    It's funny that a joke amongst my friends is that we're a LL away from hearing "You think you do, but you don't."
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    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    It's funny that a joke amongst my friends is that we're a LL away from hearing "You think you do, but you don't."
    They are very much leaning into implications that they know better than us, especially with job changes and how they bend over backwards to rationalize bad changes that no one wanted. I can’t believe how far the team fell where now they seem out of touch and proud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Picker View Post
    Did all you WoW people like take a time machine from 2008 when it was still relevant
    At its peak, World of Warcraft had ten million active players. Though it has since been on a sharp and steady decline it has yet to truly 'die' and will likely continue to be relevant in some form. There's a lot that Square Enix could learn not only from the disaster that was FFXIV's 1.0 era but the rise and fall of WoW. I'm not convinced that they will, though.
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    Player dapperfaffer's Avatar
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    It took a sexual misconduct and harassment lawsuit by the state of California for WoW to "die".
    Not the lack of development, over development and bloat of systems, constant redesign and scaling of systems, and generally bland gameplay loop that was on repeat for 7 years because it kept people running the hamster wheel.
    It took a lawsuit from the state of California.

    The state of WoW and its development had nothing to do with its decline.
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Quote Originally Posted by dapperfaffer View Post
    It took a sexual misconduct and harassment lawsuit by the state of California for WoW to "die".
    Not the lack of development, over development and bloat of systems, constant redesign and scaling of systems, and generally bland gameplay loop that was on repeat for 7 years because it kept people running the hamster wheel.
    It took a lawsuit from the state of California.

    The state of WoW and its development had nothing to do with its decline.
    There is nothing your typical gamers loves more than to aggressively only care about video games.
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    Player dapperfaffer's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    There is nothing your typical gamers loves more than to aggressively only care about video games.
    Its not even that. This thread is just a standard WoW thread where "the game is bad and the devs are trash" that would be posted on the WoW forums, and draw a whole bunch of people into it for your viewing pleasure so make sure you bring your popcorn.

    Also as a side comment since it was brought up, Brack wasn't wrong. How many months was it for WoW classic to die, again? The thing that everyone oh so badly wanted.
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