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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Which is even worse.

    We either have

    1) The B team effectively developing FFXIV

    or

    2) Only part of the developers attention. Probably less than half of it, most of the brainpower attempting to develop a brand new game.

    Either scenario is really bad for FFXIV.
    well if this is the work of the b team or only half their attention then their doing a damn fine job, can't even imagine what'd they'd do at 100%.
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    Player BrokentoothMarch's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Listrella View Post
    well if this is the work of the b team or only half their attention then their doing a damn fine job, can't even imagine what'd they'd do at 100%.
    Your standards must be dead and buried six feet under, pft.

    Sadly, unlike you, I respect myself. So I expect more from a rather expensive game to play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokentoothMarch View Post
    Your standards must be dead and buried six feet under, pft.

    Sadly, unlike you, I respect myself. So I expect more from a rather expensive game to play.
    If FFXIV is expensive to you, you don't have the financial stability to be playing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhNooo View Post
    I guess it's from the fanfest in Las Vegas
    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/blog/000845.html

    I don't see the part about the ninja anywhere so if there was a video of it, yeah it's probably gone.
    Yeah, that's on me for assuming honestly. It's been literally 7 years since I last thought of that fan fest lol

    But yeah I can't find anything of the na fanfest 2014 :<
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    Hmm you guys mean this fanfest?

    http://t-ono.net/2.0/gallery25/galle...FanFestCosplay

    This was the las Vegas fanfest in 2014 Garuda ninja Gaius minfillia check
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    Last edited by Rannie; 06-03-2022 at 12:33 PM.
    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

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    At this point, all the things that were worth saying or typing for the matter, have been done already.
    The question is, how do you know it reaches them when there's little to no activity from the other side?

    It's just barking & fighting now and sadly seems like people enjoy fighting on the forums more than playing the game.
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    I see the usual strange attempts at gatekeeping and gaslighting are readily at play from certain segments of the community. Someone's forum join date is also separate to the date that their actual account was first made. I know people who were around in the days of 1.0 who only recently decided to say their piece on the forum.
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    I'm seeing a whole lot of babyrage malding going on. Guess that's what happens when you play a Lalafell. /s

    Also hi, not everyone 'complaining' and seeing worrying connections between the Death by a Thousand Cuts of one game and this game are former WoW players. I ain't never touched it a day in my life, been here for years, but you don't need to have played WoW to research its slow, choking death and see worrying parallels with what FFXIV is currently going through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisama View Post
    The average playerbase is mindbogglingly bad at this game.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Expecting basic job mechanics is toxic now?
    Quote Originally Posted by Karowolus View Post
    If WoW has a toxic negativity problem, XIV has a toxic Positivity problem

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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    I can't say I ever cared much about Moenbryda but I thought she had a touching send off back during the days of ARR.

    I'd have been more interested in a renewed take on Nabriales' defeat in light of knowing the full story behind the Ascians and their goals.

    It helps, I suppose, that he has a full head of hair instead of that dubious half-shaved hairstyle Moenbryda sports that is alarmingly common in games these days!
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    I feel it best to simply ask one question.

    "What do you have against Endwalker? What parts do you feel were mis-steps?"

    I ask this, because I cannot really find any place where you put it down in actual words what parts people actively dislike, without being mired by emotional outrage. It would skip over all of the hate-flinging that this thread has seemingly become.

    But on the other hand, some of the points you bring up are.. Well, to be frank, things that will always remain and, at times, actually help the game. The "Job Imbalance" part specifically.

    If all Melee DPS hit as hard as a Samurai, then you lose out on Samurais main selling point, since Samurai doesn't really bring much else to the table (compared to other Melee)
    If all Tanks had a Warriors self-healing, then you wouldn't take Paladin, despite it having better defensive skills. The Self-Healing would keep them up even without popping Rampart.

    Just as a few examples. Every class fundamentally cannot be on the same playing field as others of its type. because if they were, you eliminate the reason to pick any other class but <insert top-class here>

    As it currently stands, there's a lot of groups that willingly choose to bring a Monk, or a Ninja over a Samurai, because Monks can help healers with Mantra, or communicate to put all their burst into a Ninjas Trick-Attack window. If they were truly balanced, then all Melee DPS would get their own Trick-attack. Because that skill by design gives Ninja an advantage.

    Unless you mean entirely just "DPS charts" balancing. In which case, you still fall into the pitfall I described. There will always be heavy-hitters that don't bring much team utility and those that under-perform, but make up for it by supporting. (Red Mage being coined "The Rez Mage" is evidence of this alone)

    And lastly, WoWs "downfall" is attested to a lot of things. The company losing focus and pandering, the community turning venomous even to its own kind, the constant requirement of 3rd-party addons just to beat fights, etc.

    (Yes, WoW Devs did publicly point out that they hated having to build fights later on that made 3rd-party tools a requirement. A quick google can prove this.)

    As it stands, while there are some similarities (often shocking ones) a fair number of the similarities can be pinned to two communities still merging together. While I welcome our WoW refugees (that some are still not perfectly comfortable), there are a notable amount of them that haven't really done away with their old personality and that causes some friction.

    Which in turn, causes XIVs community to become a bit more hostile in response, then it escalates and escalates.. You see where I'm going with this.
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    Last edited by Kenky; 06-03-2022 at 02:45 PM.

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