Things are getting worse.

[EriShvakh]

^this. They only just recently added in the lottery system (again) and people only just got their houses yesterday, how is this getting "worse"?

Youtube and twitter trained people to blow drama out proportion, so minor things like PvP disbalance or Housing bugs are inflated into game ending problems. Give people a week and a new shiny drama will catch their attention.

[Midareyukki]

could some things be improved, always, but I wouldnt say its all "falling apart"

I mean, Hrothgars asked for improvements for so long. What we got were the devs lying to us and begrudgingly updating the patch notes to include something we've been asking for years.

It's not "falling apart", but it's definitely getting worse. Just because it could get worse doesn't mean it's not a bad situation that needs addressing.

[Jeeqbit]

Housing is fine and new furniture is added regularly. The amount of wards needs to be increased by a lot, but we probably won't see that until the semiconductor and covid effects have been overcome. There isn't a major problem with the new PvP, at least CC and Frontline is going be balanced separately in the next patches. Whatever your problem is with class design, the game is more popular than it's ever been. I don't know what you are talking about with cosmetics/customizations.

[DanielNegreanu_Adamantoise]

Youtube and twitter trained people to blow drama out proportion, so minor things like PvP disbalance or Housing bugs are inflated into game ending problems. Give people a week and a new shiny drama will catch their attention.

I noticed the same thing in warframe. There are a few handfuls of perpetually online people who desperately need to touch some grass, whenever new content gets exhausted they get stuck, like their meaning is on pause, and the sky is falling

[Picker]

I would say things are the best they’ve ever been and are only getting better. Folks love the pvp changes and the new mode, there’s more houses then ever, job balance is tight (my static cleared week 1 with a paladin, ninja, dancer and whm) and there’s more glam options than ever before. I like nitpicking as much as the next gal but this just seems like whinging.

Also, props to the poster who correctly identified burning crusade as peak WoW and wrath as the beginning of the end. We may be in our own wotlk era, but at least this game went 10 years before stagnation whereas as WoW only made it to 4.

[Xaruko_Nexume]

The forum/reddit/discord are getting worse.

The game is fine.

I dont like to reply just to cheer on and agree but yeah. I wish there was raw data supporting but I think most people actually in the game love it right now. Outside media is where you would think folks were being forced to play WoW.

[Amenara]

Housing has always been terrible and the band-aid of the lottery just made it so I don't have to waste time on the terrible system. PvP has always been meh to me and the changes are still meh with a new coat of paint. Class design is my biggest concern as I don't like the direction the are taking with every job being a 2 minute CD job, except the jobs that don't benefit from the buffs (which still confuses me why they made Sam benefit less from buffs). It feels like they don't have a design goal for jobs and are just throwing ideas at it and seeing what happens with the current changes. Cosmetics are a meh from me, I agree it feels like more armor designs are being repurposed but it isn't a high priority for me.

All in all I'm getting Wrath into Cata vibes from this. For reference, World of Warcraft hit their peak sub count in Wrath, but into Cataclysm and onwards, they started to go too far into simplification and metrics pandering, which degraded the game over time into the limping husk it is now. I'm beginning to see the same degradation start here and it does worry me.

I think this is my sentiment with the game. It is fine right now but it feels like there is a trend downwards that concerns me.

[Shougun]

There are a lot of complaints people have about the current state of the game..

However from the perspective of someone who has stuck with the game for 10+ years.. it's not particularly bad or some sort of event horizon.


Sky ain't falling chicken little, voice your complaints by all means.. but lets not foretell the end of the world.

Going with this.

I can see some of the problems people mention, but like housing for example- it's been worse and unless they change the system itself it will, full stop, never not be bad for what some people want out of it (myself included). I understand the snaffu with lottery wasn't great but I still strongly consider such a system as a win due the alternative worse situation.

Similar words to the other bullet points, specifically on the concept of "getting worse". Of course I have caveats, not always sunshine and rainbows.. but I don't think we are on some new precipice of the end.

[sagacious]

Just seems like everything is falling apart.

Housing.
PVP.
Class design.
Cosmetics/Customizations.

There is a lot good in this game. But the scales are tipping. Hope they get their shit together.

The only thing that is falling apart is your opinion ....

[KizuyaKatogami]

I would say things are the best they’ve ever been and are only getting better. Folks love the pvp changes and the new mode, there’s more houses then ever, job balance is tight (my static cleared week 1 with a paladin, ninja, dancer and whm) and there’s more glam options than ever before. I like nitpicking as much as the next gal but this just seems like whinging.

Also, props to the poster who correctly identified burning crusade as peak WoW and wrath as the beginning of the end. We may be in our own wotlk era, but at least this game went 10 years before stagnation whereas as WoW only made it to 4.

I guess an entire race getting their racial features cut off with new hairs is the best its ever been? I guess missing out on an entire set of dungeon gear is the best things have ever been? I guess an entire role continuing to get gutted and ignored is the best its ever been?