FCs in Personal Wards must leave.

[BloodyStream]

It is abundantly clear at this point that FCs must leave Wards 19-24 to make room for personal player homes. SE has made it clear they have no intention of changing the FC/Personal ward split anytime soon so it is up to players to step up and fix this housing crisis.

There are PLENTY of open FC plots in FC wards which is where FCs belong. It is not fair that a grandfathered FCs can take a plot meant for a player. Sure it wasn't against the ToS when they bought the plot, but they are taking up precious space when they have alternatives - a luxury private players do not have.

By staying in a PERSONAL ward you are denying housing to other players AND allowing an RMT shell FC to take a spot during the next lottery. I don't know which is worse.

If players can't step up and do the right thing then I propose that SE gives these noncompliant FCs a 30 day warning to get their homes in FC wards. If they do not want to comply then give them a full gil refund of their plot.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

An FC having a house you want is not their problem to solve for you or anyone else. Why should they move if they like their spot, many FC's have their members move to spots surrounding the house.

This is just yet another salty thread wanting to take things away from other people for your own gain, when you should be whining to SE to fix their horrendous supply issue. I find it laughable that housing is an advertised feature of this game and yet it is so exclusive.



This is an image I seen when I was brand new looking at the game and housing was a HUGE draw. And the anxiety and stress I went through to get my first house was ridiculous. They should remove it as an advertised feature until it is guaranteed you can access your own HOME, not a little apartment.

[Raven2014]

This is just yet another salty thread wanting to take things away from other people for your own gain, when you should be whining to SE to fix their horrendous supply issue. I find it laughable that housing is an advertised feature of this game and yet it is so exclusive.

Exactly.

You know ... over the year, the housing threads such as this one serve as an explanation for me why our politic works the way it is. It's such a sad reality that people are so easy to bed conditioned and manipulated into thinking their problem lie with their fellows instead of the system. I don't think anyone will ever be able to explain to me how people with full command of their faculties can be this shortsighted and gulliable.

[RitsukoSonoda]

Exactly.

You know ... over the year, the housing threads such as this one serve as an explanation for me why our politic works the way it is. It's such a sad reality that people are so easy to bed conditioned and manipulated into thinking their problem lie with their fellows instead of the system. I don't think anyone will ever be able to explain to me how people with full command of their faculties can be this shortsighted and gulliable.

The housing issue is actually a combination of a system problem and a player base problem.

The system part of it being that the housing prices have not changed to reflect the rate of inflation the game economy has had since the feature was added resulting in nearly every player easily getting the gil to purchase a plot. This would be like if housing prices IRL in the US hadn't been adjusted for inflation since 1940 and were still at the same prices now as they were back then. Pretty sure just about everyone would want a house IRL in that scenario as well with a demand far outpacing the supply.

The Player base part of it is that you have a considerable amount of players that only want a house because it's a limited supply. Some doing so just to be able to say they have a house. Others atleast in the past playing scalper doing the same things as those ppl that bought out all the PS5's at launch then tried to sell them at over a 200% mark-up on things like ebay.

[TaleraRistain]

The system part of it being that the housing prices have not changed to reflect the rate of inflation the game economy has had since the feature was added resulting in nearly every player easily getting the gil to purchase a plot.

Small correction here. They have adjusted prices since the feature was added. When I started playing, prices varied on server size. That's how I was able to get my personal medium many moons ago saving up every penny for only 8 million on my then-tiny server. But large servers were getting creamed with ridiculous prices on just smalls. So they changed that to normalize the prices across all servers.

They haven't adjusted that rate since normalizing it. So that may be something to look at, but they do need to consider not putting it out of the hands of others again like was happening when larger servers had insane base prices.

[Raven2014]

Small correction here. They have adjusted prices since the feature was added. When I started playing, prices varied on server size. That's how I was able to get my personal medium many moons ago saving up every penny for only 8 million on my then-tiny server. But large servers were getting creamed with ridiculous prices on just smalls. So they changed that to normalize the prices across all servers.

They haven't adjusted that rate since normalizing it. So that may be something to look at, but they do need to consider not putting it out of the hands of others again like was happening when larger servers had insane base prices.

Because there is no point to it any more. Back then you can't transfer gil across server, now you can.

[RitsukoSonoda]

Small correction here. They have adjusted prices since the feature was added. When I started playing, prices varied on server size. That's how I was able to get my personal medium many moons ago saving up every penny for only 8 million on my then-tiny server. But large servers were getting creamed with ridiculous prices on just smalls. So they changed that to normalize the prices across all servers.

They haven't adjusted that rate since normalizing it. So that may be something to look at, but they do need to consider not putting it out of the hands of others again like was happening when larger servers had insane base prices.

Prices didn't adjust to server size. They simply depreciated based on how long they went unsold. Lower population servers usually saw lower prices because the plots were unsold for a longer period of time. They recently removed that depreciation when they opened Ishgard.

[Shibi]

And all the personals cluttering up FC wards 1 to 19?

[Yshtola_Cat]

And all the personals cluttering up FC wards 1 to 19?

Relinquished

[Moonlite]

Relinquished

If they were going to implement this new FC only solo only zone. They should have had enough wards to move houses. It is just another poor choice, which creates anger and resentment, ie this thread.