14' s hunt for new jobs may be overlooking a simple solution.

[Drkdays]

I recently read an article that spoke of the development team's difficulty in creating new jobs for new experiences and a thought occurred to me.

I've played the game since ARR, back when you had to develop two classes to a certain level to become a hero class. The base classes got a lot more attention then. They were more than simple a hurdle you had to pass before you got to the "real" class.

What if, rather than wracking their brains for new classes that they can squeeze in, they once again focused on those base classes. They could potentially add MANY new classes at once simply by adding more to classes that have long since existed.

Imagine a lv 90 Marauder. Kind of like a fighter in D&D vs a barbarian. It could even be a dps class instead of a tank, yet use all the same gear.

What base class would you play?

[DrWho2010]

They would rather just get rid of base classes if they could but it's too ingrained into the system to take out now.

[Hanayumi]

Unfortunately devs kinda hate the base classes, its just far easier for them to work on the job from the get go rather than working a class into the job. Also, kind of a big one, they really really dont want jobs being too esthetically similar and definitely dont want jobs sharing weapons, which is why theyre more likely to make an original job rather than use more of the classic FF jobs.

[ZeraSkiratea]

they specificaly dont WANT to have more "splitting classes" like Scholar and Summoner, as its a nightmare to work with.

[Moonlite]

they specificaly dont WANT to have more "splitting classes" like Scholar and Summoner, as its a nightmare to work with.

See this seems weird in context of the current game. They could have just broke sch off and made it job stone only like the new ones. Once they had a system in place that didn't require a starting class, it made the most sense. It would have been making a semi new job with probably a huge chunk of the work done.

[Xirean]

See this seems weird in context of the current game. They could have just broke sch off and made it job stone only like the new ones. Once they had a system in place that didn't require a starting class, it made the most sense. It would have been making a semi new job with probably a huge chunk of the work done.

It's probably some spaghetti code issue. The exp for SCH and SMN are linked through ACN and breaking that link is probably more complicated than it appears from our perspective.

Since they did the xp stat squish thing. I would think it would have to work where they are doing long maintenance. And old SCH is completely deleted and then uploaded as new SCH. But prob isn't worth the actual effort.

Maybe, but that also carries the very real risk of losing players data on who is currently a SCH/SMN/ACN. Also any achievements tied to the jobs may also have to be reworked as well.

[Moonlite]

It's probably some spaghetti code issue. The exp for SCH and SMN are linked through ACN and breaking that link is probably more complicated than it appears from our perspective.

Since they did the xp stat squish thing. I would think it would have to work where they are doing long maintenance. And old SCH is completely deleted and then uploaded as new SCH. But prob isn't worth the actual effort.

[Xirean]

Considering just how much Summoner and Scholar have been separated every expansion since they were made, I don't see this system making any sort of return. At this point the only reason I think they don't completely delete base classes is because of retainers.

[LeonKeyh]

It would be neat if each job had a "DPS" version and a Healer/Tank version, but as others have said, they hate the fact that SCH/SMN are a split job and said that if they were going to do anything with the base classes, it would be removing them. They're a little too difficult though.

I wouldn't expect it.

Honestly, I've seen the quote being thrown around about "needing" to make new jobs, but I haven't seen the context behind it. There are a TON of both named Jobs that are not in the game and can be added (e.g. Rune Knight/Fencer, Chemist, Gambler, Gunner, etc), some jobs that have been hinted at in game that we haven't really seen (e.g. Geomancer), and even FF characters that don't have named jobs that they can use (like they did with Gunbreaker).

Even so, there's plenty of lore in FFXIV and I'm sure that they can come up with some really good originals.

[anhaato]

YoshiP: We have to start inventing more new jobs at this rate!
Beastmaster:
Puppetmaster:
Corsair:
Chemist:
Geomancer:
Arithmetician:
Templar:
Mystic Knight: