message to all crafter/gatherers

[Silverbane]

To be a proper crafter/gatherers you need access to all the mats that can be gathered. You need a garden and you need airships and submarines you cannot call yourself an Omni-crafter if you don't have a house and a garden.

Sure you can: after all, you can be an omni-crafter without even being a gatherer. It's just not as profitable.

That said: two of my characters have all their crafting and gathering classes to 90, and my spouse and our friends run our own FC with a house and garden. But my third character is only leveling crafters, not gatherers, and is doing that with GC turnins crafted by my primary character, because there's no need for me to have three omni-crafter/gatherers, I just want the third character to be able to repair gear and do melds.

(There is some small utility in having two omni-gatherers, for things like the grade 3 soils that are on timed nodes and give only one item per node appearance, but once you've gather from those once, you just send your retainers get the mats. )

[sagacious]

Sure you can: after all, you can be an omni-crafter without even being a gatherer. It's just not as profitable.

That said: two of my characters have all their crafting and gathering classes to 90, and my spouse and our friends run our own FC with a house and garden. But my third character is only leveling crafters, not gatherers, and is doing that with GC turnins crafted by my primary character, because there's no need for me to have three omni-crafter/gatherers, I just want the third character to be able to repair gear and do melds.

(There is some small utility in having two omni-gatherers, for things like the grade 3 soils that are on timed nodes and give only one item per node appearance, but once you've gather from those once, you just send your retainers get the mats. )

A garden provides cross breeding. Crossbreeding provide numerus gill making possibilities so your wrong there.
Thavarian onions is just one example. Crafters need to grow voidrake and Althyk Lavender seeds this will provide an enormous bounty of Items from turn-ins at the apt building or junkmongerers so your wrong again there. Where are you going to get potters stones? how can you make exteriors without a workshop? exteriors at this time garner 10's of millions of gil so your wrong again and again and again. I not advocating the breakage of any FC but I am asking crafter/gatherers to chose themselves over anything for the future of your craft

[Silverbane]

A garden provides cross breeding. Crossbreeding provide numerus gill making possibilities so your wrong there.

No, I'm not wrong about not needing a garden to be an omni-crafter.
I don't craft solely to make gil; why would anyone, when gil flows so readily to anyone who is active?
I have more gil than I know what to do with anyway, even after spending literally millions of gil on rare mats to craft glam items (e.g. a varsity skirt and a boulevardier's ruffled shirt for my fem roe). Glam items for myself and as gifts for friends, not for resale.

I craft and gather partly for convenience, but mainly for the same reason I do anything else in FFXIV: because I simply enjoy it. After all, it's just a game, and enjoying it should be the main reason you play.

[KurohNeko]

No, I'm not wrong about not needing a garden to be an omni-crafter.
I don't craft solely to make gil; why would anyone, when gil flows so readily to anyone who is active?
I have more gil than I know what to do with anyway, even after spending literally millions of gil on rare mats to craft glam items (e.g. a varsity skirt and a boulevardier's ruffled shirt for my fem roe). Glam items for myself and as gifts for friends, not for resale.

I craft and gather partly for convenience, but mainly for the same reason I do anything else in FFXIV: because I simply enjoy it. After all, it's just a game, and enjoying it should be the main reason you play.

You don't know true joy till you grow you some glaze nuts and find that the nuts don't give seeds so you have to repeat the month long process of growing them again to harvest like 4-5 of them. That's why they and Thav onions cost so much. We put a lot of work into growing em.

[Silverbane]

You don't know true joy till you grow you some glaze nuts and find that the nuts don't give seeds so you have to repeat the month long process of growing them again to harvest like 4-5 of them. That's why they and Thav onions cost so much. We put a lot of work into growing em.

My spouse and I grow our own Thav onions. We're intimately familiar with why they cost so much.

Oh you mean the most lucrative items in the game aka rare minions and furnishings that make money and are the entire point of being a crafter?

The entire point of you being a crafter, maybe. But its not why I'm one.
That said, being able to craft my own glam items for way less than the market price for them is pretty enjoyable. And painfully easy, for those of us who remember crafting from back in the ARR days, when progress steps could fail ...

[Jojoya]

I see lots of crafter/gatherers in the city states and I am asking you to form new FC's and get houses. To be a proper crafter/gatherers you need access to all the mats that can be gathered. You need a garden and you need airships and submarines you cannot call yourself an Omni-crafter if you don't have a house and a garden. You give the FC more credits than they need and you can make your own FC credits without any help I know I've done it and my FC is level 23 in the 6 months I've had the FC formed 1/29/22.

You've made a lot of ignorant posts in the past several weeks but I think this one has the others beat by a wide margin.

Omnicrafting has nothing to do with owning a house and gardening. It simply means someone has taken the time to level all the crafting classes.

I never lack for access to any crafting materials I need. The marketboard exists for a reason.

You don't need airships or submersibles to craft.

Generating FC Company Credits is pointless once you reach a certain point because they're generated faster than they're used and the leftovers aren't especially good for making gil because too many FCs are likewise using them in the same few ways available to make gil off them.

FC Rank past 15 is currently pointless as it offers no additional entitlements worth having. Run out of FC actions? It just takes a moment to go to the GC and buy more. Having more inactive actions isn't worth the bother.

[side question: why did SE increase Rank to 30 when they haven't bothered to add new entitlements past Rank 20?]

A garden provides cross breeding. Crossbreeding provide numerus gill making possibilities so your wrong there.

No, the other poster was perfectly accurate in what they stated. Someone can be an omnicrafter without having access to the items obtained through crossbreeding. Most omnicrafters focus on making gear and none of what is unique to crossbreeding is used to make gear.

Just because someone bypasses certain ways to make gil in favor of pursuing other opportunities does not mean they're not an omnicrafter.

Thavarian onions is just one example.

Have nothing to do with crafting.

Crafters need to grow voidrake and Althyk Lavender seeds this will provide an enormous bounty of Items from turn-ins at the apt building or junkmongerers so your wrong again there.

I don't need to grow Voidrake or Althyk Lavender as everything available at Curious Crop exchange is available through other means - gathering, vendors, treasure maps, marketboard.

Voidrake and Althyk Lavender provide a measure of convenience if you need one of the materials that can be purchased on short notice but growing them is not mandatory.

Where are you going to get potters stones?

Why on earth would I worry about getting Potter's Stone? Demand for Faerie Chandeliers is low. If I really wanted to make one, then I'd buy the Potter's Stone cheap off the MB. There's plenty there because few people buy the Chandeliers.

how can you make exteriors without a workshop? exteriors at this time garner 10's of millions of gil so your wrong again and again and again. I not advocating the breakage of any FC but I am asking crafter/gatherers to chose themselves over anything for the future of your craft

Who says I or others want to make exteriors? To me, using the Fabrication Station isn't crafting, it's a separate form of content. You might effectively need to be an omnicrafter to use the Fabrication Station efficiently; you don't need to be using a Fabrication Station to be an omnicrafter.

I not advocating the breakage of any FC but I am asking crafter/gatherers to chose themselves over anything for the future of your craft

Get over yourself. You don't get to dictate how others choose to play the game.

Just abandon your FCs to see a miniscule increase in profit after like what.. 3-6months? lol

You can see a profit off a garden patch almost immediately.

It's the workshop that takes time to turn a profit.