Gladiator End Game Builds

[wind]

Keen Flurry - dont know about you but I dont like missing in Battle Regimens, so more acc yes please. Could be the difference in a debuff landing.

If you're tanking I wouldn't suggest this at all. ACC is amazing I'll give you that, but when tanking you don't want to just be sitting there. As we all know, currently Regiments are clunky and while being involved in one you cannot do any other actions. So while you're waiting for your group to get your BR done you're potentially losing hate and if it works like XI, whereas you hit a cap and start decreasing, wasting time on this could potentially kill someone if they pull it off you due to your hate dropping.

-OP
Your build is decent for soloing or grinding I suppose but you're using so much AP on WS. If I recall correctly you had 4-5 different weapon skills listed and one of those was riot blade (5 points). Honestly outside of phalanxII and maybe 1 reaction WS's(fracture/jarring/feint), we only need 1 real WS(depends on fight, ie Incap WS's) unless you're short handed and you yourself need to be pumping out a lot of deeps.

As others mentioned atk+ modifiers(raging,ferocity), generate decent hate with zero stam cost which is a definite plus. I lean toward raging more then ferocity because of the 30sec CD.

Although missing is annoying apart from that, its not that detrimental to land your hit. Most of our hate comes from abilities not damage(aside from heavy stab/phalanx), so prioritizing DEX over STR(increase block dmg) I don't necessarily agree with.

Hadn't seen anyone mention it yet but accomplice(pug 30) is a nice lil hate boost also with a decent CD and can rotate it through your more damaging DD's / healing mages.

[Rydin]

I'm also surprised no one has mentioned the Pugilist ability "Accomplice"

[Aratharn]

I'm also surprised no one has mentioned the Pugilist ability "Accomplice"

Just picked this up a couple weeks ago and it is extremely useful.

[Rentahamster]

And why would you wanna solo in a MMO? That word 'solo' should not be legally used in MMO's... I never understood that concept >.>

Because I don't need a party to kill pigs for hog hide when I'm rank 50? I want to keep all the drops to myself? I don't want to burden other people into spending time helping me if I don't need to?

If you're referring to grinding SP, 90% of my time has been in a party, thank you very much.

[Rentahamster]

I'm also surprised no one has mentioned the Pugilist ability "Accomplice"

Yep, that skill is awesome. Too bad the range sucks. I always have to tell the archer or mage to come closer so I can accomplice him. It's gonna get him killed someday, lol.

Increase the range please, SE.

[Rydin]

Yep, that skill is awesome. Too bad the range sucks. I always have to tell the archer or mage to come closer so I can accomplice him. It's gonna get him killed someday, lol.

Increase the range please, SE.

Archer's die.. I dont mind so much... lol

[SoraRyuu]

Nothing to stop you at all. other than getting CON or THM to 48 >.<

[Draven]

@ Maven Redux

Thanks for the suggestions. TP boosts are interesting indeed.

It's a tough balance right now with skills to slots and many of us are still experimenting for sure. This build seems very popular among a lot of Gladiators I know so I wanted to post the general design of it for all to see.

No I'm not Dravin from Reflect. Is that a Linkshell? I have no idea. This is the first time I've used this in a Final Fantasy MMO (it was already taken in XI) but I use this in almost every MMO I play.

Edit: Oh and Wind, please read #17 or #1 again.

[Mavven]

gotcha, just thought oh no could be, old LS coleader buddy of mine sorta disappeared off the face of the earth a few years back.

Definitely everything at this point is a work in progress and things are always changing. I mean look at tanking in XI it went from War's to Pld/war to Nin/war to nin/drk to pld/rdm to rdm/nin

[Alexandrious]

Sighs, guess ill have to step in on this.

As you can see from my sig, I have a ton of abilities. This is what I normally use. But let me get this straight, we do not need Dex at all for evasion or to help with BRs, I never, have to get involved in BRs, at least the way the game is now. Ill explain after the list.

This is what I currently use.

Circle Slash 2 *Goats and Goblins, even with a 70 dex I still hit most of em*

Luminous Spire * Goats and Goblins again, never misses and the Blind AoE effect gets aggro from the mobs*

Warmonger *Aoe Threat and Enmity increase*

Wardrum * AoE threat*

Provoke 2

Taunt 2

Accomplice *Used for quick threat stabilizer and threat removal from a problematic DPS party member, like an Archer, also works good for enimity wipes, such as Ram*

Emulate *I use this on Goblin and Dodore, greatly lowers the damage of Dodores Earth range attacks as well as the Goblins Bomb attacks, with Transcendence I am without the buff for a max of 10 seconds at a time in which case I invoke Tempered Will or Rampart*

Defender *Defense and M.Def boost, will have Defender 2 very soon*

Invigorate *TP Boost, ill explain down below*

Hawks eye *situational, ill explain below*

Raging Strike 2 and Ferocity 2 *Gives burst aggro just from activating them, but I hardly ever have it up on bars*

Aegis Boon 2, Deflection, Outmaneuver. *obvious*

Cure 2 and Sac 2 *for emergency, also gives a little bit of threat*

Punishing Barbs *Gives a little threat and helps damage the mob, I try to time it for big damage strikes, does bout 400+ dmg back to the mob, I especially like using it on Goats and Goblins*

Tempered Will *Low cool down, good for use on magic based mobs or mobs that use something similar to magic*

Rampart 2 *Obvious*

Sentinel *Def boost and enimity loss slow down. low cool down, adds a little threat like any other ability just from activating*

Disorient 2 *Enimity increase and helps the melee, ill explain below*

Siphon TP *Explained below, hardly need to use it though, optional*

Siphon MP *Again, optional, hardly have to use*

Obsess 2 *I switch it out with Emulate for Dodore and Goblin, sometimes just keep it up there, depends on group layout, this gives defense against the target but lowers it for others attacking you, best used on Ram, Uraeus*

I might be missing something, normally I go by instinct and remember absolutely everything I put up depending on what im killing.

As for the BR situational, normally we have a full alliance for NMs on our Event nights. Can consist of up to 5 archers, 3 or 4 mages usually 3, two tanks me and my co-tank or trainee, and the rest melee dps. For BRs my Raid leaders normally lets Archers and Mages have priority on BRs depending on what we are killing, tweaking and training those not too familiar on BRs to be more up to our lv. BRs may be a little wonk still, but they do work and make killing tremendously faster.

A perfect Debuff BR followed by a perfect full attack BR can cut off a huge chunk of mob HP. Can kill Uraeus in about 7 mins or less depending on whos there, other NMs bout 15 mins or less depending on which one. Still got some members who are not too good with BRs just yet, but we keep practicing.

My involvement with BRs though is simple. Unless im helping to incap, which again, I don't join BRs to do, I do it when I feel like, hence I use hawkes eye and a corresponding incap ability to help damage the body part as the fight goes on, I mostly just pay attention to keeping mob focus, using Disorient 2 which is an evasion debuff on the mob, before a Debuff BR or a Full attack BR triggers, to help the DPS out, as well as help the other mrds out in stacking Disorient.

For full attack though, not only do I use Disorient, but I also use Luminous Spire, which again, doesn't miss since its magic damage, and applies a M.Def Debuff to uraeus to go with the M.def down debuff caused from the Debuff BR, to help the mages. I make careful use of Outmaneuver and Invigorate to try and keep TP up best as I can so I can use spire each time. However, I only do this if we are going for quick kills or we are very sure to have a incap.

If we dont have either of the above, I use TP abilities to do incaps to help instead, but I still apply Disorient for the BRs. Disorient also helps keep my threat in check so I can use some light attacks to maintain a little threat and keep TP up, while throwing accomplice on a different melee going from highest to lowest threat order to maintain more threat.

Yes, Siphon TP does work on NMs, and though I hardly use it, ill put it on my bar if I feel that getting Incap is more important.

I focus more on Vit, Str and Mind. I get at least 40 mind for dodore, and to have MP to use, Vit about 160, Str as much as I can put up, Dex I try to keep at 70+.

I level different jobs all the time so I can never have my ideal stats least until I finish leveling all combat and magic jobs to 50. I dont use any stat rings since its been confirmed, that stats from rings is for some reason, broken, it doesnt add spite it does show up.

So instead I use one single Garnet Ring +1 along with two Mithril Bracelets +1, for Dodore though I use a M.Def set consisting of Tricorne, Black Pearl Earring, Mithril Choker, Mithril bracelets, Toadskin harness +1, Tights +1, Buccaneer Boots, Buccaneer Sash, and Spiked Armguards or Brass Vambraces +1.

Got any questions, ask me. My gf and I are both the best tanks of our server according to what everyone else says anyway.