Quote Originally Posted by KickRox View Post
Chainsaw I agree with. Chance has no place in a skills competition. Not sure what luck/chance has to do with either NIN or SAM LB. There's no RNG involved in either. NIN LB also has essentially 0 impact on a match other than to lock the NIN in animation for 2 seconds if it misses.. That's the point: High risk, High reward. Medium Cooldown. If your hp is 49.99% or below at the moment the NIN LB input reaches SE server, you die, even if your med kit's input hit the server the moment after. If you're calling that "luck" then so is anything to do with server ticks. SAM LB also has no element of RNG involved. So not sure what makes either of them a gimmick. TBH, it sounds like you have trouble identifying when Kuzushi lands on you. I'd recommend enlarging "Status info: enfeeblements" in HUD settings, along with "target info: status", and the size of the enemy party list in the Duty section of HUD layout when you're @ Wolves' Den Pier. You can also focus the SAM and use that to identify when they have Chiten up.
I appreciate the advice on avoiding the SAM LB but its not necessary. I am fully capable of avoiding it unless they get lucky with a stray AOE on my part. I am also not trying to argue semantics here either. I called them cheesy or lucky. Chainsaw is obviously the latter while Zantetsuken and Seiton Tenchu are the former. Its basically a free noob killer move that takes no special skill in pulling off but when it pays off it pays off tremendously when going up against inexperienced or otherwise distracted enemies. When going up against more experienced players it becomes an ordinary LB thats still better than most of the other melee LBs. My point was never that it was unavoidable as it very much is. My point is insta kill abilities shouldnt be a thing in PVP in ANY form. It diminishes and lowers the skill level in competitive matches. If you wanna buff Sam LB fine but buffing it does not require keeping the insta kill gimmick intact. The LB not being an insta kill when you pop it is not justification for it needing to be buffed. Literally no other LB save one other even works that way.