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    Klytania Moanmoore
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    Does anyone unironically enjoy PvP?

    I don't see the appeal. If it wasn't for the daily Exp and the rewards in CC, it would be totally useless. Taking away the tangible outside of PvP benefits of playing it, it's basically the worst pvp game ever conceived.

    No balance, no class balance. As of 6.1 everyone has this annoying self-heal and invul shield. Fights feel like wet noodle fights where nobody dies until the team focuses you and you die instantly.

    The worst part is they could make it great by simply emulating the established metas of current PvP games. (They already stole a game mode from Teamfortress)
    • Force team synergy with matchmaking. No more teams with 3 healers vs a team with no healers
    • Take self heal away from everyone. Only healers should be able to self-heal.
    • Guard shield on a longer cooldown. Such a powerful panic button shouldn't be always up.
    • Only tanks get guard
    • Allow us to chat with our team
    • Give additional series XP for in-game contributions to the team, e.g. moving the crystal, time spent moving the crystal, capturing points, kills, assists, healing people if playing a healer role.
    • Award class XP comparable to completing a level-relevant dungeon upon completing rounds of frontline. Divide XP gain accordingly for CC

    And of course this goes without saying, tweaking Blackmage, Ninja and Dragoon so other classes can play the game as well.

    Tertiary fix. The character portraits are completely broken. Changing gear, even if you re-glam your appearance, breaks the plate you use with your character. This is annoying, and makes me want to just ignore the system altogether needing to constantly make sure everting is set so it shows correctly.
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    Last edited by Klytania; 05-28-2022 at 05:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klytania View Post
    [LIST][*]Force team synergy with matchmaking. No more teams with 3 healers vs a team with no healers
    [*]Take self heal away from everyone. Only healers should be able to self-heal.
    [*]Guard shield on a longer cooldown. Such a powerful panic button shouldn't be always up.
    [*]Only tanks get guard[*]Allow us to chat with our team
    Feast that got replaced by CC had a problem that some roles had hour long queues because they were throttled by there only being few healers/melees in queue compared to tons of tanks and ranged dps (healers and melees had most responsibility in Feast so they had lower amount of players). When healers were the only role with healing people complained that each Feast match was solely decided by the healer 1v1 matchup while rest of the 6 players can do whatever. Guard has 30s cooldown which is already a long cooldown compared to the amount of damage that happens compared to the available healing/damage/sustain reduction jobs have. Only tanks having Guard would do what? People already just focus them last and them having a Guard button that they then press 1v5 when rest of their team is dead wouldn't do anything. Team chat used to exist but it was disabled due to all the toxic talk and million reports that came from it. That still happens through quick chat spam though

    We are kinda in a loop of feedback where we are in the 3-4th iteration of PvP and many are again asking for something back that used to exist but was deemed non functional/not interesting for the community years ago
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    Last edited by Nanne; 05-28-2022 at 04:28 AM.

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    Frankly speaking? It’s an overall positive experience for me despite many of their glaring flaws.

    Definitely fun enough for an ’afterthought’.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanne View Post
    Feast that got replaced by CC had a problem that some roles had hour long queues because they were throttled by there only being few healers/melees in queue compared to tons of tanks and ranged dps (healers and melees had most responsibility in Feast so they had lower amount of players). When healers were the only role with healing people complained that each Feast match was solely decided by the healer 1v1 matchup while rest of the 6 players can do whatever. Guard has 30s cooldown which is already a long cooldown compared to the amount of damage that happens compared to the available healing/damage/sustain reduction jobs have. Only tanks having Guard would do what? People already just focus them last and them having a Guard button that they then press 1v5 when rest of their team is dead wouldn't do anything. Team chat used to exist but it was disabled due to all the toxic talk and million reports that came from it. That still happens through quick chat spam though
    So kinda like normal daily queues. K

    Also nobody played Feast because you only got rewards for winning. The flaw wasn't with the team system it was that nobody was playing it.
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    It's a "sometimes-treat"
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    ~sigh~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Frankly speaking? It’s an overall positive experience for me despite many of their glaring flaws.

    Definitely fun enough for an ’afterthought’.
    Feels like they want it to be more than an afterthought
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    It would be a lot more fun for me if I could queue into CC with a friend. It wouldn't even matter to me if we were randomly assigned a team. I just enjoy it a lot more when I can talk to them in discord while doing it.
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    Yes, I enjoy it.
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    Francine Manx
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    I enjoy <3
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    It's the main reason I'm subbed right now. Despite the BLM warping the meta, most of the PvP community is pretty chill and the matches at high rating intense.
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