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    Solution to the Housing Problem: Instanced Housing!

    So the idea is that everyone would be able to get their own instanced housing plot, in varying sizes, so housing is not a matter of luck but just something you save up gil for and you are guaranteed to be able to get your own house of any size you like if you spend enough time! Wouldn't this be a great idea and solve the limited housing problem?
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    Wow, this has never been brought up before. What a concept, SE! Imagine what you could do with instanced housing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    So the idea is that everyone would be able to get their own instanced housing plot, in varying sizes, so housing is not a matter of luck but just something you save up gil for and you are guaranteed to be able to get your own house of any size you like if you spend enough time! Wouldn't this be a great idea and solve the limited housing problem?
    Yes because just like in real life, everything is given to you... No need to pay, no need to do anything other than push a few buttons and there ya go, you get a house. No

    While I agree that housing shouldn't be so limited, I do feel like that it should be something worked towards. Saving up your gil to get a house, crafting or buying and selling to get the things you want (not need) is a good thing.

    If you want the new PVP gear, guess what... you need to grind for it.. Want that Eureka mount? Guess what you need to grind for it.. Want that nice Relic weapon to complete your outfit.. guess what... you guessed it! You have to grind for it!

    Yes, SE needs to open up MORE housing, they need to stop with the FC wards for all but 6 wards, they need to open up districts in the different places where housing would be a nice option. I can see so many places where a housing district would fit into the story and add housing to the market. They need to do that, but they DO NOT need to just give everyone a house. That is insane. Life doesn't come with a bow on it, even in a make believe game. One MUST have some skin into it to make it worth something.

    No to FREE housing, Yes to SE opening up more districts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roehann View Post
    Yes because just like in real life, everything is given to you... No need to pay, no need to do anything other than push a few buttons and there ya go, you get a house. No

    While I agree that housing shouldn't be so limited, I do feel like that it should be something worked towards. Saving up your gil to get a house, crafting or buying and selling to get the things you want (not need) is a good thing.

    If you want the new PVP gear, guess what... you need to grind for it.. Want that Eureka mount? Guess what you need to grind for it.. Want that nice Relic weapon to complete your outfit.. guess what... you guessed it! You have to grind for it!

    Yes, SE needs to open up MORE housing, they need to stop with the FC wards for all but 6 wards, they need to open up districts in the different places where housing would be a nice option. I can see so many places where a housing district would fit into the story and add housing to the market. They need to do that, but they DO NOT need to just give everyone a house. That is insane. Life doesn't come with a bow on it, even in a make believe game. One MUST have some skin into it to make it worth something.

    No to FREE housing, Yes to SE opening up more districts.
    Did you even read the OP's first sentence? There was nothing at all mentioned about having a free house, just that they change it to instanced housing instead of the crap we have had. They clearly said you save up the gil for the house type you want to buy, not get it for free.

    And while we are at it, why are you wanting to keep an existing system that is broken, aged, technologically taxing on servers and makes no sense at all? Instancing makes so much more sense. Stop trying to improve a turd by making a bigger pile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    Did you even read the OP's first sentence? There was nothing at all mentioned about having a free house, just that they change it to instanced housing instead of the crap we have had. They clearly said you save up the gil for the house type you want to buy, not get it for free.

    And while we are at it, why are you wanting to keep an existing system that is broken, aged, technologically taxing on servers and makes no sense at all? Instancing makes so much more sense. Stop trying to improve a turd by making a bigger pile.

    I did misread the OP posts. I thought it was another give me a free instance house..

    As far as a broken system. It's not broken, or over taxing the severs to our knowledge. Instance housing would cause server strain just like our current wards.

    If SE added more housing districts, wards, plots then I am sure everyone wouldn't be wanting instance housing. The bottom line is everyone wants the ability to get a house and right now they can't. It's got nothing to do with whether it's instance or not, it's a supply and demand feature.

    Can't you think of at least six places that would make great housing districts in the story? I can. I think they just need to add more as the story progresses and that would solve their problems. Instance housing like Apartments and FC rooms aren't as nice as a ward is in my opinion.. Now, maybe a mix of them both.. Make apartments so they can have a garden, that might solve some of the issues with people wanting instance housings, while keeping the wards.

    Different levels of Apartments, different levels of plots.. a combination of both would work out and help everyone.. but doing away with the wards in my opinion is a bad thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roehann View Post
    I did misread the OP posts. I thought it was another give me a free instance house..

    As far as a broken system. It's not broken, or over taxing the severs to our knowledge. Instance housing would cause server strain just like our current wards.

    If SE added more housing districts, wards, plots then I am sure everyone wouldn't be wanting instance housing. The bottom line is everyone wants the ability to get a house and right now they can't. It's got nothing to do with whether it's instance or not, it's a supply and demand feature.

    Can't you think of at least six places that would make great housing districts in the story? I can. I think they just need to add more as the story progresses and that would solve their problems. Instance housing like Apartments and FC rooms aren't as nice as a ward is in my opinion.. Now, maybe a mix of them both.. Make apartments so they can have a garden, that might solve some of the issues with people wanting instance housings, while keeping the wards.

    Different levels of Apartments, different levels of plots.. a combination of both would work out and help everyone.. but doing away with the wards in my opinion is a bad thing.
    Just add instanced housing it would fix the problem. FFS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roehann View Post
    I did misread the OP posts. I thought it was another give me a free instance house..

    As far as a broken system. It's not broken, or over taxing the severs to our knowledge. Instance housing would cause server strain just like our current wards.

    If SE added more housing districts, wards, plots then I am sure everyone wouldn't be wanting instance housing. The bottom line is everyone wants the ability to get a house and right now they can't. It's got nothing to do with whether it's instance or not, it's a supply and demand feature.

    Can't you think of at least six places that would make great housing districts in the story? I can. I think they just need to add more as the story progresses and that would solve their problems. Instance housing like Apartments and FC rooms aren't as nice as a ward is in my opinion.. Now, maybe a mix of them both.. Make apartments so they can have a garden, that might solve some of the issues with people wanting instance housings, while keeping the wards.

    Different levels of Apartments, different levels of plots.. a combination of both would work out and help everyone.. but doing away with the wards in my opinion is a bad thing.
    It is actually very taxing. Yoshi-P has repeatedly stated that more hardware is need to expand this, right along with the same sentiments every expansion they have put out since FFXIV. It's the reason why we can't have nice things - more storage, more glamour storage, more housing, more this and that. The ONLY reason we have housing in its current state is two reasons:

    - Yoshi-P like the neighborhood feeling and doesn't want to get rid of that, even though I have been subbed for over 2300 days, and had a house since Shirogane Extreme, I have yet to see a neighbor. At my house, my FC house, or any of my friends' houses.
    - The original set up was intended for Free Companies, because housing was originally only designed for that purpose. When they included personal housing, this was the major downfall they have experienced since that day.

    The benefits of instancing, I have outlined already a few times the benefits and how it could work with an existing system with migration, ward and neighborhood feelings included, just for Yoshi-P's pride.

    Instancing is the smartest way to ever build something this large - that's been proven in so many ways, with so many games. It's not near as taxing when you can actually reduce the numbers of how many times we already enter an instanced area just in housing.

    The only reason we are where we are, is the director's pride. That's it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roehann View Post

    Yes because just like in real life, everything is given to you... No need to pay, no need to do anything other than push a few buttons and there ya go, you get a house. No


    No to FREE housing, Yes to SE opening up more districts.
    So, I'm going to point out, there's nothing wrong with just giving people houses in a video game.
    OP never said anything about free houses though.

    Back to your original post; I think instanced housing should 100% be a thing- personally, I think it should feel like a proper reward & have unlock tiers like beast tribes/ doman enclave/ firmament type deal- a progression based system set on the players donations.
    Like you start out with a tiny plot/ island but the more you contribute the more is unlocked- gardening, bigger house, etc.

    A little grind wouldn't hurt anyone, I agree- but the neighborhoods are dead. Most apartments are locked or if open, are empty. (atleast on my server) How often do you see wards full of people on a regular basis? Neighborhoods are a waste of resources imo. Everyone has asked for larger item space & more decoration- Many people want instanced housing because alot of folks have felt the frustrations of not being able to get their own house & deal with the limitations of an apartment/ FC room.

    SE can implement a system that completely overhauls the current housing system from apartments to s, m, L houses. Put a notice out for everyone & a news letter that people need to pull out their items & can get a refund on their apartments & houses. For players who don't log on in this time, have their items put on the house NPC & held until the player can finally pick their items up.
    --Wards & apartments should now be dedicated to instanced housing- A player can have an FC plot dedicated to the amount of FC members they have- like a guild hall (Similar to Guild Wars system, idk if you're familiar but it was a large world surrounded & modeled after different themes like ancient jungle ruins, a desert/ oasis, a european style castle, a temple dedicated to the god of Death, etc)

    I've played many games that had various types of housing, for me the reward is the decorating & making something awesome each time.

    TL; DR there is no reason obtaining a house should be a struggle at any point in a video game. A regular joe should be able to get the plot they want, a little grind doesn't hurt. I'm sure somehow, small indie company SE will manage. Hrothgar ears be damned.
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    Last thing I want in an MMO is everyone sequestered off in their own little pocket dimension. Congrats, the world's dead now.

    Go play a lobby game like Monster Hunter if you want this experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martynek View Post
    Last thing I want in an MMO is everyone sequestered off in their own little pocket dimension. Congrats, the world's dead now.

    Go play a lobby game like Monster Hunter if you want this experience.
    That already takes place in housing. You make it sound like we are asking to turn this into a solo player game and over-exaggerating the issue.
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