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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    Have more then 1 friend? Want to play with FC? No roulettes for you. Why do you think this is a good idea? Are you that mad because you waited 30 mins on a roulette as a dps at 3 am?
    "Are you that mad..."

    And you immediately invalidated any potential argument you might have had. I figured out by the quotes in the other person's signature that they were just a proud troll. Didn't realize these entire forums were infested with them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    I think you're taking it way too personally and may need to take a step back. You seem to be getting offended because I said this is an MMO and people play with others, often friends. Saying "you not having friends is not the game's fault" is not a "we're lucky that the rest of this community doesn't think like you do" kind of statement. You're clearly just oversensitive. Don't take it out on me by acting like it's such an extreme thing to say that people play multiplayer games with friends.

    Anyway, people cheesing their ilevels affects people's ability to get into duties at all. You say that roulettes are for filling spots, correct? So why does it take so long for me to get into level 60/70/80 alliance raids as literally any job? Because people are forcing CT raids by lowering their ilevel. Roulettes aren't about you getting in quickly, it's about you filling in slots to help other people clear content, isn't it? So I'll reiterate my point. Since you agree that roulettes are for filling in spots in duties in order to allow others to complete them and you get a bonus for helping, then people cheesing their ilevels is a greater detriment to the roulettes as a whole than people grouping together.
    Okay, so you're right about the ilevel manipulators being a detriment. Isn't this still a heavy case of what-aboutism? You're deflecting from my point, trying to say there are other more severe issues out there and that it's not relevant, when it really is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    "Are you that mad..."

    And you immediately invalidated any potential argument you might have had. I figured out by the quotes in the other person's signature that they were just a proud troll. Didn't realize these entire forums were infested with them.



    Okay, so you're right about the ilevel manipulators being a detriment. Isn't this still a heavy case of what-aboutism? You're deflecting from my point, trying to say there are other more severe issues out there and that it's not relevant, when it really is.
    LOL. Says the troll themselves. You know what: let's make the game SOLO only. No groups. All content scaled to playing alone. No more queues!

    You still failed completely to explain how that would help anyone besides being something YOU want
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    LOL. Says the troll themselves. You know what: let's make the game SOLO only. No groups. All content scaled to playing alone. No more queues!

    You still failed completely to explain how that would help anyone besides being something YOU want
    It's funny how you insist on putting words into my mouth.

    The only thing that would change is that DF Roulettes would be duo only. Instead you're jumping to the extreme, "OMG she's saying make the entire game solo only."

    I've already explained how it would help DPS queues, and queues in general. Scroll up and quit being obstinate
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    It's funny how you insist on putting words into my mouth.

    The only thing that would change is that DF Roulettes would be duo only. Instead you're jumping to the extreme, "OMG she's saying make the entire game solo only."

    I've already explained how it would help DPS queues, and queues in general. Scroll up and quit being obstinate
    Funny how much you assume and misread. But looking at your other posts: it's always the others right?

    Non full parties match up with others while a full party will not. This is your entire point. What about players that que with npcs? What about players that ONLY play in full parties? Those will NOT necessarily convert to a limited que with only 2 players max. Your ASSUMING people will just accept it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    Funny how much you assume and misread. But looking at your other posts: it's always the others right?

    Non full parties match up with others while a full party will not. This is your entire point. What about players that que with npcs? What about players that ONLY play in full parties? Those will NOT necessarily convert to a limited que with only 2 players max. Your ASSUMING people will just accept it.
    LeonKeyh's post says it nicely. Also I find it funny how you have to dig through my post history in order to find something else to attack me over.

    But to continue on, yes obviously people that queue with trusts aren't going to be affected, why would they? This only pertains to DF Roulette and you can't run roulette with NPCs. You should know that, but then again you're grasping at straws.

    I would genuinely love to reach an agreement with you, but you're clearly not looking for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    LeonKeyh's post says it nicely. Also I find it funny how you have to dig through my post history in order to find something else to attack me over.

    But to continue on, yes obviously people that queue with trusts aren't going to be affected, why would they? This only pertains to DF Roulette and you can't run roulette with NPCs. You should know that, but then again you're grasping at straws.

    I would genuinely love to reach an agreement with you, but you're clearly not looking for that.
    In none of your posts are you actually looking for that. You spit out your opinion, don't consider other viewpoints and that's it. This is over. I'm putting you on ignore. Everyone on this forum should do that. You just attack and ignore feedback. Hope you have fun in your solitude with that attitude.

    Oh and added on: You YET AGAIN misread me. Are you having trouble reading? I said people who RUN WITH NPCs are not going to get lower YOUR que because yes YOU NEVER GET MATCHED WITH THEM. If your argument is "people should que with a full party because than i have to wait longer" we might also consider these solo players. Yes they don't do the roulettes... but geez why stop at them? Why SPECIFICALLY limit roulettes for full parties? So YOU have to wait less?

    If all roulettes are just to fill people looking for members than does that mean if all do roulettes no one will get matched because all are waiting to be filled in? If yes than that's stupid. If not than i guess it failed to do what it was supposed to do. There are many long time players running the roulettes and not any specific dungeons. It keeps people logging in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Okay, so you're right about the ilevel manipulators being a detriment. Isn't this still a heavy case of what-aboutism? You're deflecting from my point, trying to say there are other more severe issues out there and that it's not relevant, when it really is.
    No, it's not "what-aboutism". It's saying that people playing together in a massive multiplayer online game is not a detriment, whereas actual exploits of the game system are.
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