Duty Finder DPS Queue Time Solution

[Doozer]

All of the daily Duty Finder Roulettes should be solo(maybe duo to be generous) only anyways. There's too many people doing their dailies with a whole team of friends and while it is a MMO and you're supposed to make friends of course, it defeats the entire purpose of it. Too many people hide away in their own friend groups, refusing to interact with the rest of the game's population.

So people whine about not being able to do Crystalline Conflict with friends, and now you want to take away a very popular aspect of playing from groups of people? That all sounds like you have your own issues that you don't need to take out on everyone else. What's the harm in me and my partner doing roulettes together? That doesn't stop us from interacting with other people. Sounds like a you problem.

[NekoMataMata]

So people whine about not being able to do Crystalline Conflict with friends, and now you want to take away a very popular aspect of playing from groups of people? That all sounds like you have your own issues that you don't need to take out on everyone else. What's the harm in me and my partner doing roulettes together? That doesn't stop us from interacting with other people. Sounds like a you problem.

Crystalline Conflict is different from daily roulettes.

Daily Roulettes are intended to help people by filling in party slots in exchange for offering a boosted reward. When you queue up as a full team, you're earning that reward while not doing the intended job.

But sure, jump the idea that I have "issues" and that I'm "taking them out on other people." Fantastic argument. I mean I main healers, I don't even have this issue, I just want to see fair treatment here.

[Doozer]

Crystalline Conflict is different from daily roulettes.

Daily Roulettes are intended to help people by filling in party slots in exchange for offering a boosted reward. When you queue up as a full team, you're earning that reward while not doing the intended job.

But sure, jump the idea that I have "issues" and that I'm "taking them out on other people." Fantastic argument. I mean I main healers, I don't even have this issue, I just want to see fair treatment here.

My point is that people complain that they're not allowed to play with friends, even in casual, and now you're advocating for further restrictions in an MMO. I think people cheesing their ilevels is a much greater blight on roulettes than people playing together like they're supposed to. I think you're also taking it to the very extreme and acting like everyone doing roulettes together is a fully 4- or 8-person party. I seriously doubt that happens as often as you think. I also don't think DPS queue times are exclusively affected by 2 or more people playing together.

The fair treatment is that you can group with a tank or healer friend as well. Unless you don't have friends, but that's not the game's fault.

[NekoMataMata]

My point is that people complain that they're not allowed to play with friends, even in casual, and now you're advocating for further restrictions in an MMO. I think people cheesing their ilevels is a much greater blight on roulettes than people playing together like they're supposed to. I think you're also taking it to the very extreme and acting like everyone doing roulettes together is a fully 4- or 8-person party. I seriously doubt that happens as often as you think. I also don't think DPS queue times are exclusively affected by 2 or more people playing together.

The fair treatment is that you can group with a tank or healer friend as well. Unless you don't have friends, but that's not the game's fault.

I don't think it needs to be restricted completely but I see no issues with restricting it to duo only.

And people cheesing their ilvls does nothing to affect the availability of positions in queues. You might not get the queue that you want, but lowering your ilvl is not going to do anything besides restrict that person's available options in the roulette. Also, I think you're taking it to the extreme by suggesting that there aren't a lot of people doing full DF Roulette queues. No, it's not everyone, of course it's not everyone and you know that. There certainly are a lot of people that do though.

And sure, people are free to group with others but it shouldn't be a necessity to speed up their own queues. Would you really tell newer players that don't have a lot of friends in-game yet that it's their problem? We're lucky that the rest of this community doesn't think like you do.

[Doozer]

I don't think it needs to be restricted completely but I see no issues with restricting it to duo only.

And people cheesing their ilvls does nothing to affect the availability of positions in queues. You might not get the queue that you want, but lowering your ilvl is not going to do anything besides restrict that person's available options in the roulette. Also, I think you're taking it to the extreme by suggesting that there aren't a lot of people doing full DF Roulette queues. No, it's not everyone, of course it's not everyone and you know that. There certainly are a lot of people that do though.

And sure, people are free to group with others but it shouldn't be a necessity to speed up their own queues. Would you really tell newer players that don't have a lot of friends in-game yet that it's their problem? We're lucky that the rest of this community doesn't think like you do.

I think you're taking it way too personally and may need to take a step back. You seem to be getting offended because I said this is an MMO and people play with others, often friends. Saying "you not having friends is not the game's fault" is not a "we're lucky that the rest of this community doesn't think like you do" kind of statement. You're clearly just oversensitive. Don't take it out on me by acting like it's such an extreme thing to say that people play multiplayer games with friends.

Anyway, people cheesing their ilevels affects people's ability to get into duties at all. You say that roulettes are for filling spots, correct? So why does it take so long for me to get into level 60/70/80 alliance raids as literally any job? Because people are forcing CT raids by lowering their ilevel. Roulettes aren't about you getting in quickly, it's about you filling in slots to help other people clear content, isn't it? So I'll reiterate my point. Since you agree that roulettes are for filling in spots in duties in order to allow others to complete them and you get a bonus for helping, then people cheesing their ilevels is a greater detriment to the roulettes as a whole than people grouping together.

[BRVV]

I don't think it needs to be restricted completely but I see no issues with restricting it to duo only.

And people cheesing their ilvls does nothing to affect the availability of positions in queues. You might not get the queue that you want, but lowering your ilvl is not going to do anything besides restrict that person's available options in the roulette. Also, I think you're taking it to the extreme by suggesting that there aren't a lot of people doing full DF Roulette queues. No, it's not everyone, of course it's not everyone and you know that. There certainly are a lot of people that do though.

And sure, people are free to group with others but it shouldn't be a necessity to speed up their own queues. Would you really tell newer players that don't have a lot of friends in-game yet that it's their problem? We're lucky that the rest of this community doesn't think like you do.

Have more then 1 friend? Want to play with FC? No roulettes for you. Why do you think this is a good idea? Are you that mad because you waited 30 mins on a roulette as a dps at 3 am?

[NekoMataMata]

Have more then 1 friend? Want to play with FC? No roulettes for you. Why do you think this is a good idea? Are you that mad because you waited 30 mins on a roulette as a dps at 3 am?

"Are you that mad..."

And you immediately invalidated any potential argument you might have had. I figured out by the quotes in the other person's signature that they were just a proud troll. Didn't realize these entire forums were infested with them.

I think you're taking it way too personally and may need to take a step back. You seem to be getting offended because I said this is an MMO and people play with others, often friends. Saying "you not having friends is not the game's fault" is not a "we're lucky that the rest of this community doesn't think like you do" kind of statement. You're clearly just oversensitive. Don't take it out on me by acting like it's such an extreme thing to say that people play multiplayer games with friends.

Anyway, people cheesing their ilevels affects people's ability to get into duties at all. You say that roulettes are for filling spots, correct? So why does it take so long for me to get into level 60/70/80 alliance raids as literally any job? Because people are forcing CT raids by lowering their ilevel. Roulettes aren't about you getting in quickly, it's about you filling in slots to help other people clear content, isn't it? So I'll reiterate my point. Since you agree that roulettes are for filling in spots in duties in order to allow others to complete them and you get a bonus for helping, then people cheesing their ilevels is a greater detriment to the roulettes as a whole than people grouping together.

Okay, so you're right about the ilevel manipulators being a detriment. Isn't this still a heavy case of what-aboutism? You're deflecting from my point, trying to say there are other more severe issues out there and that it's not relevant, when it really is.

[BRVV]

"Are you that mad..."

And you immediately invalidated any potential argument you might have had. I figured out by the quotes in the other person's signature that they were just a proud troll. Didn't realize these entire forums were infested with them.



Okay, so you're right about the ilevel manipulators being a detriment. Isn't this still a heavy case of what-aboutism? You're deflecting from my point, trying to say there are other more severe issues out there and that it's not relevant, when it really is.

LOL. Says the troll themselves. You know what: let's make the game SOLO only. No groups. All content scaled to playing alone. No more queues!

You still failed completely to explain how that would help anyone besides being something YOU want

[Doozer]

Okay, so you're right about the ilevel manipulators being a detriment. Isn't this still a heavy case of what-aboutism? You're deflecting from my point, trying to say there are other more severe issues out there and that it's not relevant, when it really is.

No, it's not "what-aboutism". It's saying that people playing together in a massive multiplayer online game is not a detriment, whereas actual exploits of the game system are.