Penalty for pre-made parties

[sumiretsukino]

Requesting to remove duty penalty when quitting pre-made party. I was capped in Poetics as we are doing DR50/60/70/80 and forgot to spend some before going in. At least reduce penalty to 15mins IF you can't remove it. Made no sense since we running with pre-made party (usually with friends)

[LeonKeyh]

Vote abandon didn't work? Even a pre-made party can have randoms in it that could possibly leave the rest of the party high and dry.

[Frizze]

Unless im remembering it wrong, you need to be in the instance for a few mins before vote-abandon is an option - so im guessing they didnt wait long enough to use it. As for OP, a full group that straight-ques into any given instance has no penalty associated with it. The penalty only becomes active when the group ques for a roulette rather then a specific instance. The idea is that it stops(or at least deters) people from fishing for specific instances with their roulette bonus.

[DrWho2010]

vote kick becomes active at 5 min.
vote abandon becomes active at 15 min (if i'm not mistaken). OP probably did not want to wait 15 min.

[Voidedge_Ragna]

Its to prevent fishing, if you are a 4 man pre made and do a roulette for sample levelling, you could fish till you get a dungeon you want to do that's why your getting a penalty for leaving.

[Stepjam]

Its to prevent fishing, if you are a 4 man pre made and do a roulette for sample levelling, you could fish till you get a dungeon you want to do that's why your getting a penalty for leaving.

But why would that matter? They already added a function that limits you to dungeons close to the lowest level player if it's a full premade, so why would it matter if you go fishing for a dungeon?

[DrWho2010]

But why would that matter? They already added a function that limits you to dungeons close to the lowest level player if it's a full premade, so why would it matter if you go fishing for a dungeon?

Because "roulette" means "roulette". that's pretty much it.

[Stepjam]

Because "roulette" means "roulette". that's pretty much it.

Seems silly to me. The roulette exists to make sure new players can always have people to play with in older content. But once you remove the "new player" element, I don't think there really need to be penalties like that.

[Azuri]

Seems silly to me. The roulette exists to make sure new players can always have people to play with in older content. But once you remove the "new player" element, I don't think there really need to be penalties like that.

By the same logic, should there be no roulette rewards for full groups then?

[LeonKeyh]

Seems silly to me. The roulette exists to make sure new players can always have people to play with in older content. But once you remove the "new player" element, I don't think there really need to be penalties like that.

By the same logic, should there be no roulette rewards for full groups then?

Yup, this. Roulettes primarily are for filling in groups for new players that are queuing for a specific dungeon. Allowing full party roulettes with the reward that is meant to incentivize that always seemed very strange to me for that reason.