Is no one happy?

[Novae]

I stopped taking this game seriously after LL69 and Yoshida's obsession towards new/ non mmo players, and 6.1 MSQ. And you know what? I feel so much better now. I just log in, do my reclears, unreal, a bit of gathering, some roulettes then I log off.
So yes, for what it is now, I'm happy. I haven't played for the last week because of sinusitis and surprisingly, I didn't miss the game that much. If it wasn't for my friend, I wouldn't have logged yesterday for the reset. But I did and it was a fun evening nevertheless. I still like the game, still like doing battle content but I don't care enough anymore to complain about stuff I can't change, or is agains't devs vision.

[Neoyoshi]

Yep, positivity to the point of downvote bombing anyone who disagrees with you at times. It's a much happier and nicer place. We achieve progress through drowning out any criticism or negative commentary, after all.

"If citizens are complaining, it means they still care"

That's goddamn right. *said in Morgan Freeman voice-over*

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

Tries to defend the place by saying it isn't toxic...by being toxic. This is kinda what the issue is dude. Most of the crap here is just people taking shots and insulting others for differing opinions. Call spots like reddit bad if you want, but if I want to have fun with the community outside of the game that's the place to go. Not here. Positivity here gets strangled

Boo hoo, cry me a river. Maybe if you people actually tried to engage constructively instead of shouting down and gaslighting everyone who has valid critique and criticism over various aspects of this game, I might actually bother to be polite. But you reap what you sow; don't like how I act to you? Should've not acted like that towards us 'vocal minority of complainers'.

[BrokentoothMarch]

Boo hoo, cry me a river. Maybe if you people actually tried to engage constructively instead of shouting down and gaslighting everyone who has valid critique and criticism over various aspects of this game, I might actually bother to be polite. But you reap what you sow; don't like how I act to you? Should've not acted like that towards us 'vocal minority of complainers'.

It's rather funny that it's Ikara of all people trying to take the moral highground. Maybe someone who believes the game is just fine the way it is and didn't engage with petty squabbles over it could have a leg to stand on, but IkaraGreydancer of all people has zero place to speak. All they do is go around making passive-aggressive potshots and insult others for having a differing opinion. Seriously, Ikara, is honesty just an alien concept to you or are you just a super cool elaborate troll?

I stopped taking this game seriously after LL69 and Yoshida's obsession towards new/ non mmo players, and 6.1 MSQ. And you know what? I feel so much better now. I just log in, do my reclears, unreal, a bit of gathering, some roulettes then I log off.
So yes, for what it is now, I'm happy. I haven't played for the last week because of sinusitis and surprisingly, I didn't miss the game that much. If it wasn't for my friend, I wouldn't have logged yesterday for the reset. But I did and it was a fun evening nevertheless. I still like the game, still like doing battle content but I don't care enough anymore to complain about stuff I can't change, or is agains't devs vision.

Aye, Yoshi has made it clear that the vet base that's here for an MMO experience are hardly welcome anymore. I'm letting my sub lapse and just accumulate gil in the meantime when I'm not playing other games. It also didn't help that, at least how I personally feel, Yoshi has been far more flippant towards the community lately. The arrogance that comes with success is not a new story to any development of any media and I fear we're arriving at that stop ourselves. Not that I ever understood the Yoshi worship, though, honestly. The man's skills (used to) lie in managerial ability, not developmental. The cracks of this lack are forming now and instead of trying to address them, the man seems more content to tell us to just leave.

Sad. I really like XIV.

[Xaruko_Nexume]

I want to apologize if I seem dismissive of anyone's concerns. It is never okay for anyone to say "the things you have issues with do not matter." And if I have come off that way, im sorry. They obviously matter to you and if they matter to you then they probably matter to someone else too.

That said, I do think a lot of people who frequent these forums could benefit from some perspective. Maybe take a step back from the game, gaming in general, and have a look and see just how good we have it here over all. I don't think even the staunchest Yoshi sycophant would say the game is 100% perfect with zero room for improvement.

My only point is that it seems that some people let their enjoyment of the game be ruined or be driven to extreme emotion over cosmetics or 1 or 2 jobs not performing quite perfectly, when so many games have it so much worse. It really just wreaks of first world mmo problems.

[Azuri]

My only point is that it seems that some people let their enjoyment of the game be ruined or be driven to extreme emotion over cosmetics or 1 or 2 jobs not performing quite perfectly, when so many games have it so much worse. It really just wreaks of first world mmo problems.

This is a FINAL FANTASY XIV™ Official Forums. We are voicing criticims aimed at FINAL FANTASY XIV™. I literally don't care who fucked whom in Blizzard's office. This has nothing to do with FINAL FANTASY XIV™ and carries no relevance on validity of criticsm of FINAL FANTASY XIV™.

[BrokentoothMarch]

I want to apologize if I seem dismissive of anyone's concerns. It is never okay for anyone to say "the things you have issues with do not matter." And if I have come off that way, im sorry. They obviously matter to you and if they matter to you then they probably matter to someone else too.

That said, I do think a lot of people who frequent these forums could benefit from some perspective. Maybe take a step back from the game, gaming in general, and have a look and see just how good we have it here over all. I don't think even the staunchest Yoshi sycophant would say the game is 100% perfect with zero room for improvement.

My only point is that it seems that some people let their enjoyment of the game be ruined or be driven to extreme emotion over cosmetics or 1 or 2 jobs not performing quite perfectly, when so many games have it so much worse. It really just wreaks of first world mmo problems.

I don't care what those other games are doing. I'm not playing those other games. I'm playing XIV and XIV is having problems right now.

EDIT: Guess I'm just echoing Azuri, but probably because it's a damn good point.

[KizuyaKatogami]

I want to apologize if I seem dismissive of anyone's concerns. It is never okay for anyone to say "the things you have issues with do not matter." And if I have come off that way, im sorry. They obviously matter to you and if they matter to you then they probably matter to someone else too.

That said, I do think a lot of people who frequent these forums could benefit from some perspective. Maybe take a step back from the game, gaming in general, and have a look and see just how good we have it here over all. I don't think even the staunchest Yoshi sycophant would say the game is 100% perfect with zero room for improvement.

My only point is that it seems that some people let their enjoyment of the game be ruined or be driven to extreme emotion over cosmetics or 1 or 2 jobs not performing quite perfectly, when so many games have it so much worse. It really just wreaks of first world mmo problems.

An entire role being gutted and ignored for years. An entire race being ignored for years. Less content, less music, less gear while the game continues to make more money. This isn’t first world mmo problems. This is the beginning of the ff14 decline.

[IkaraGreydancer]

Boo hoo, cry me a river. Maybe if you people actually tried to engage constructively instead of shouting down and gaslighting everyone who has valid critique and criticism over various aspects of this game, I might actually bother to be polite. But you reap what you sow; don't like how I act to you? Should've not acted like that towards us 'vocal minority of complainers'.

Not crying at all lmao youre the one upset tbf. And what are you talking about? Who here was rude to you? I know for a fact that I wasn't. Plenty of us engage constructively but that never matters it seems because we're always "wrong" no matter what if we don't share your grievances.

You don't get to basically claim the place isn't toxic by being toxic yourself dude. That's hypocritical no matter how you try n justify it.

You're putting yourself on a pedestal like you're above other folks, "us vocal minority". This is the type of stuff that makes me say you can't exactly be on the OF and express that you like the state of the game. That's taboo and wrong think. This is probably why the devs ain't listening to yall. To much bs and infighting to take seriously. Such a welcoming community...until you don't crap on the things others dislike about the game

[Iscah]

I have never seen a game forum that was positive. Games at their heights are complained about endlessly, games in the grave are picked at and mocked, it’s never a bright and happy place. I’ll never forget seeing the web of complaints that existed for WoW back in the day when it was at what most considered its peak.

We've had different forum experiences then. Perhaps game genre, perhaps the difference between official and non-dev-connected forums – although the one official forum I spent some time on (Insomniac, before they shut it down in favour of a chaotic Discord) seemed decent, from what I can remember. The devs were actually somewhat active there, though always said they outright couldn't take suggestions from players for legal reasons.

Most forums I've been in either revolved around lore discussions or providing game help to people.