Is no one happy?

[Rokke]

And if I wanted to I could devolve Savage and Ultimate down to "you just dodge this and go here". But I prefer not to do that. I hate when folks do that to try n devalue a point. The person I quoted claimed content was mostly hand outs and I gave proof that isnt the case

You used Eureka as an example of something that required a significant amount of effort to clear. It does not.