Is no one happy?

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Welcome to Forum. Doesn't mean that nobody's enjoying their game though.

[Lustre]

The only reason the forums have aggregated all of the disgruntled players, or ones who have more negative things to say than the average, is because it's the only place you can do so without being drowned out/downvoted/banned by an army of graha Tia kawaii warriors

[BaconBits]

I think people who are angry or just really disappointed about something will just have a lot more energy too to spend on it generally speaking ( my signature coincidence not intended ).
Even in the thread as I mentioned where most people rant about the story it still has someone saying that they liked the story with more than double the updoots than the OP and a second one just meme:ing with more too.
But somehow it's evidence of how much people supposedly hated the story?
I wonder if you just reduced the thread to 1 post per person too how it'd really look.

The same goes for me too, I ranted a ton about the Kaiten removal.
I didn't spend a whole lot of energy talking about how much I love NIN in EW tho.

I may not have put much thought into the story at the time I made that post, but even then I thought it was kinda goofy that the main cause of virtually everything wrong with Eitherys was a depressed guy and his army of bird daughterus sending negative vibes toward the rest of the universe.

Ever since then I've been following that thread and interacting with it on occasion, whether it be silly joke posts like lalafell Zenos getting football tackled by a reanimated Garlean corpse being the real highlight of the expac, or more serious posts deriding the use of time travel as a plot point yet again, the Kairos Incident being all too convenient of a plot device, and the depiction of the Sundering painting Venat/Hydaelyn in a far more negative light than I thought possible. With the reveal that she intentionally Sundered all of Eitherys based on a crisis of belief and not as an accident of her clash with Zodiark (which we don't even get to see btw) along with the fact she intentionally spared Emet-Selch, Elidibus and Lahabrea knowing full well how much destruction they would wreak in their desparate bid to restore their home, it's absolutely baffling that she got off as good as she did. Even when she acknowledges that what she did was heinous and a gross violation of all her people's rights, the story bends over backwards to have the Scions reassure her that her cause was just and she did no wrong, with no dialogue option to rebuke her in sight.

That other reply below me was just downright petty to be honest.

[Batbrat]

The forum is mostly full of complaints because when you have a complaint, they direct you here to the forum to post it. So there's always going to be a lot more negative posts/questions since this is where it actually belongs.

[Vyrerus]

On forums it's all doom and gloom. We are having fun. Why doesn't the ffxiv forum community reflect that.

Think about the structure of the game, and how its social mechanisms operate. You have groups with leadership who can on demand remove someone who says something they don't like.

The game itself is very fast paced, where if you are playing, there isn't a lot of room to chat. Unless you're specifically chatting in game, rather than playing (unless you're crafting or fishing).

Meanwhile the Forum is a place where, as long as you follow the rules, no one can silence you. Save individually via the block option. The only thing we can do here is write words to convey feelings and facts.

You see a lot more negative here, because it's allowed. It is mostly just the earnest and open opinions of people, though there are also trolls. This negativity is not without purpose. It's from the minds of people ruminating hard on the game, usually when they are unable to log into it, but still have time to write. These are people thinking about FFXIV all of the time. The trolls are just here for the semi-easy marks, who they are also thinking about all of the time (doki doki).

It is not that they are unhappy, necessarily. It is that they care so much, that they wish for the game to move closer to what it had been or what it could be. It is the negativity that comes from hope. The hope that the devs will read the feedback. The hope that the game will get better/go back to being as good as it was. The hope that certain features will be added. It is the negativity that comes from hope, when hope is thoroughly dashed.

Keep in mind also that, the regular posters here are here for more than just feedback. Here to socialize. Whereas the irregular users are just here to leave feedback once or twice, as strongly worded as possible, their feeling the need to post here generally a mark of anger or resentment.

It is a symptom of folks who care too much, so don't let it bother you. Don't give the forums another thought if they rain on your parade. This is their natural state.

[Nekkowe]

I'm happy, but I only check the forums for the state of some bug reports, stuff like that.
Can't imagine living here. Half the threads in the General Discussions are just the most rancid attention bait I've ever laid eyes on, it drowns out anything remotely constructive.

[Avidria]

I mean I love the game and have had plenty of fun playing it. There are just also things about it that I don't enjoy or would like to see changed. It is possible to enjoy something and also recognize and criticize flaws in it, you know.

[VelKallor]

I may not have put much thought into the story at the time I made that post, but even then I thought it was kinda goofy that the main cause of virtually everything wrong with Eitherys was a depressed guy and his army of bird daughterus sending negative vibes toward the rest of the universe.

A vast oversimplification of a much more complex storyline.

and the depiction of the Sundering painting Venat/Hydaelyn in a far more negative light than I thought possible.

No hero is perfect, no legend is 100% true, what we did not know of those times, we later learn, that what we believe to be true is only part of the story. Venat was not without fault..none of us are. Venat made the only decison she felt would work..

both to weaken Zodiark, and to prepare Man to better deal with dynamis

"To find joy even as darkness descends"..Meteion and what she creates, a universe of misery and death

"And amidst deepest despair..light everlasting". The journey at Ultima Thule, all we had suffered before, had prepared us for what we were to face..

Even when she acknowledges that what she did was heinous and a gross violation of all her people's rights, the story bends over backwards to have the Scions reassure her that her cause was just and she did no wrong, with no dialogue option to rebuke her in sight.

She did what she thought she had to...at that time she had very few choices. None of them very palateable..but this path, she hoped, she prayed,

would bring Man to the point where they could fight Meteion on her own ground..but on THEIR terms.

For her children to grow, they had to pay that price.

WARNING SPOILER HIDDEN CLICK AT YOUR OWN RISK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwTcMt6k8FQ

We asked...She answered....

Thy Life is a riddle, to bear rapture and sorrow
To listen, to suffer, to entrust unto tomorrow
In one fleeting moment, from the Land doth life flow
Yet in one fleeting moment, for anew it doth grow
In the same fleeting moment

Thou must live

Die

And know

[FatalFatalis]

I still enjoy the game, even I enjoyed the story when I did it for the first time, that doesn't mean I can't point out the flaws that it has, and this place seems to be one of the few places where I can post my issues with it, the result is probably making me look like a doomer, but that isn't the case, at least for me.

[Archaell]

Large part of happiness in any online game is writing suggestions and complaints in forums. It's just another venue to socialize.