Is no one happy?

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I'm not, because of her:

She's Beautiful Sir.
Congratulations

[Raven2014]

If you want to join a community of people who just enjoy the game and having a good time, Reddit is the place for that.

People who enjoys the game don't tend to visit the forum. I started playing since 2014-15 I think, and I barely ever visit the forum. The one period I frequent this forum was during the launch of this expack due to connective issue ... you know, I thought if I can't play the game, at least I can talk about the game. And just like you have realized, the OF is a giant hot steaming pile of poop. These days with the connectivity issues gone, once again I barely visit here any more, 'cause I enjoy my time actually playing the game itself. After 8 years I still pretty much enjoy the game, enough that I have 4 active characters, so plenty of things to do, no time to waste on here. I poke my head in here once in a while, and each time it's the same giant hot steaming pile of fresh poop.

I had come to a conclusion several months ago that the majority of people on the OF are people who must being forced to play the game at gun point, otherwise it bottle the mind how can someone pay 15$/month just to torture themselves that much. Oh and another thing, it's probably take a while for you to notice. But what I just said is only half of the issue, the other half is this forum probably has one of the worst moderating policy I've ever seen, which is why the forum is pretty much the wild west. The only reason it's not the worst is because that ranking is reserved for forum where moderators actively harass and trolling posters, but the policy here is just one level above that.

[P0W3RK1D]

So we started an FC, and we are genuinly happy and excited to play the game.

On forums it's all doom and gloom. We are having fun. Why doesn't the ffxiv forum community reflect that.

Overall, this is a great expansion. Came back did ARR, so much better, do the rest.

It's a game, have fun. I love you all!
FF6 Sabin

Look in the healer forums for a bit and you might discover why a lot of the healer community is unhappy. (spoiler alert: Square Enix neglect and gaslighting with little-to-no end in sight)

[VelKallor]

On forums it's all doom and gloom. We are having fun. Why doesn't the ffxiv forum community reflect that.

Someone will always have a gripe. Its human nature. Its also subjective.

For example:

Saw the "critiques" of Endwalker and how it was 'controversial" and laughed my head off, I loved it. Every single moment.

"Reapers cant dps" - um yes, they can and they do, they do great dps..oh you mean "raiding only" - well FF 14 isnt raids only , saying RPR isnt a viable class because it doesnt meet your arbitrary "standards" is kinda silly.

BTW all the raid statics I know say RPR does great dps and is a very versatile, very fluid class.

The rest is the usual nitpicking, as a mate of mine said recently "Some people will find fault with the way the sun rises".

Endwalker is and has been a blast, with some heartwrenching moments I will never forget.

One of the last few trials? As a fellow player said "That wasnt her enrage....IT WAS OURS".

Its been fantastic. After 8 years in another MMO that seems to actively find new ways to FAIL, FF 14 is an absolute delight. Take a walk in Gridania on a beautiful sunny day , then tell me that isnt utter beauty

So Im happy as it is. Happy with the game, happy with the content, am an avid and happy crafter, playing alongside some wonderful people.

People talk about a massive population influx recently but in reality it came, it stayed a few weeks, and it got bored and vanished.

The OCE datacentre says hi there we are growing steadily, thanks. Ravana has queues EVERY SINGLE DAY now, the other servers do too, Zurvan is slowly and steadily growing, we are seeing more and more people every month.

It isnt just those xferring btw, old players are returning and rolling on OCE...nearly fainted when i saw a name I hadnt seen in over two years.

Oh and lastly, people coming and going in FF 14 is kinda standard. What was it Yoshi said?

Oh yes

"It's alright not to play it everyday. Since it's just a game, you can stop forcing yourself if it's hard on you to keep that up. Rather, it'll just pile up unnecessary stress if you limit yourself into playing just that one game since there are so many other games out there. So, do come back and play it to your heart's content when the major patch kicks in, then stop it to play other games before you got burnt out, and then come back for another major patch. This will actually make me happier, and in the end, I think this is the best solution I can answer for keeping your motivation up for the game."

What more could you ask for?

[HalinFluffyBuns]

No I'm not happy I still can't wear most of the female outfits from the mogstation ME WANT PRINCESS DRESS DEMMIT

[AlyaNimfa]

idk, I'm having a blast ingame and don't come here much anymore. It's just the same old posters and the same old thing on the forums. Theyre not really doing anything for the game or community by having them to be honest.

[Zaniel]

Almost all gaming forums are an utterly microscopic proportion of their respective playerbases and the FF14 forums are an even smaller representation than that. If you spend any time here you realise that the number of posters here are a veritable dust speck compared to the numbers playing in game, additionally a large number of posts (especially the negative ones) are repeats from a hardened cadre of usual suspects. A couple of hundred rage posters of which maybe a quarter have anything of a legitimate and coherent issue to discuss as opposed to deranged poopposts compared to millions of satisfied players, don't let it get to you, either that or enjoy yourself playing forum dodge-ball.

EDIT: I'm all for constructive feedback to devs but I'm sorry, a lot of these complaint posts are ABSURDLY subjective or make no sense at all or ask for something that is even worse because they don't think about the ramifications of the various design decisions, or are barely human language that can be decoded.

If you want to complain, that's fine but the onus is on the complainer to make a clearly reasoned, least-as-possibly-subjective discussion and THEN take it on the chin if people politely say "no thanks I disagree because ..." instead of exploding into a screeching monkey-poo throwing lump of inhuman insanity.

[Vryn]

Almost all gaming forums are an utterly microscopic proportion of their respective playerbases and the FF14 forums are an even smaller representation than that. If you spend any time here you realise that the number of posters here are a veritable dust speck compared to the numbers playing in game, additionally a large number of posts (especially the negative ones) are repeats from a hardened cadre of usual suspects. A couple of hundred rage posters of which maybe a quarter have anything of a legitimate and coherent issue to discuss as opposed to deranged poopposts compared to millions of satisfied players, don't let it get to you, either that or enjoy yourself playing forum dodge-ball.

EDIT: I'm all for constructive feedback to devs but I'm sorry, a lot of these complaint posts are ABSURDLY subjective or make no sense at all or ask for something that is even worse because they don't think about the ramifications of the various design decisions, or are barely human language that can be decoded.

If you want to complain, that's fine but the onus is on the complainer to make a clearly reasoned, least-as-possibly-subjective discussion and THEN take it on the chin if people politely say "no thanks I disagree because ..." instead of exploding into a screeching monkey-poo throwing lump of inhuman insanity.

Everything is subject. You are subjective on objective statements. That's what creates an opinion, and we as humans use said opinion to give feedback because it allows us to grant context and subtext to what would be bland objective statements

Just because something is subjective doesn't mean it's wrong. They are liking/disliking an aspect of a certain issue within the game and state why which is undoubtedly relevant feedback. But, at the same time, that may not represent everyone, and no one says it does, it does represent them and people like them, and there will be more players like them.

They have stated a point. They gave their evidence and then expanded on that evidence and linked it back to the topic. If you do not agree with that statement or think it is not logical, that's fine, but then it's on you to deconstruct their information with your reasons so they can construct the point again, taking on your reasons to refine the overall topic.

That is the point of the forums to construct and deconstruct to refine feedback. If you posted on the forums, others would label your thread as highly subjective, and that's okay.

Whether people think it's toxic or not, we are here to fight, converse and argue our point as fervently as possible. We are here to have gotcha snide and bitchy moments because it shows humanity's actual thought process on the subject. Very little worth has been derived from any situation built on love and kindness. Even marriages fail when built on crap. So you should expect people not to agree and fight over something as much as possible. Yes, that's a good thing because what's leftover is more valuable to the devs than what began, and if it goes too far for them, they can shut it down, but it doesn't stop it. It will just continue. There always be another thread.

Conflict is the spice of life. It's what makes things interesting it's why it's called Drama. It grabs people's attention. Toxicity, pain, and EMOTIONAL DAMAGE are not harmful in contained environments and help promote growth. However, you may have to die on a hill a few times to mature and grow mentally as a human, especially on controversial subjects.

[Ranaku]

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Just funny that this "drama" and "conflict" here is always created by the same people with their hot takes.

I think the real problem forums have aren't subjective opinions, any problem you have is first and foremost subjective since you can only basically talk for yourself. But that is where most of the people here on the forums have problems with. They don't speak about what they would like to see and deliver feedback in a manner that would suggest that it is their opinion. Almost always their "feedback" is delivered in either doomsday preaching or in a way that projects their subjective opinion on a broader playerbase. Like "If you do XYZ SE then you lose all your raiders" or well in this case here "Is no one happy" where people jump to conclusions by taking a few people and boiling the gigantic playerbase the game has down to there few peoples opinion.

It's just a matter of rhetoric, people tend to speak for a broader group cause it makes your argument/opinion seem stronger than it actually might be. Instead people should just speak for themselves, cause they write about their personal opinions and don't speak for anyone else than themselves. But that is something that doesn't happen here and that is the reason why nobody is taking the NA forums serious, it's a bunch of demands to change something based on personal opinions and trolls and people who rather say that XYZ will destroy the game instead of delivering valid and easy digestible feedback.

[Vryn]

Just funny that this "drama" and "conflict" here is always created by the same people with their hot takes.

I think the real problem forums have aren't subjective opinions, any problem you have is first and foremost subjective since you can only basically talk for yourself. But that is where most of the people here on the forums have problems with. They don't speak about what they would like to see and deliver feedback in a manner that would suggest that it is their opinion. Almost always, their "feedback" is delivered in either doomsday preaching or in a way that projects their subjective opinion on a broader playerbase. Like "If you do XYZ SE then you lose all your raiders" or well in this case here "Is no one happy" where people jump to conclusions by taking a few people and boiling the gigantic playerbase the game has down to there few peoples opinion.

It's just a matter of rhetoric. People tend to speak for a broader group cause it makes your argument/opinion seem stronger than it actually might be. Instead people should just speak for themselves, cause they write about their personal opinions and don't speak for anyone else than themselves. But that is something that doesn't happen here and that is the reason why nobody is taking the NA forums serious, it's a bunch of demands to change something based on personal opinions and trolls and people who rather say that XYZ will destroy the game instead of delivering valid and easy digestible feedback.

Yes, they do speak about what they would see if they preach or doom monger about an issue what they would see is that resolved promptly.

Your post can be boiled down to "It's not what you say, it's how you say it", but the problem is no one cares if you feel emotionally infringed upon were not you grow a spine and deal with the issue. If you can stand the hellfire, don't jump from heaven, the demons aren't kind to you. If we sent you to hell, you would be complaining to Satan that it's not a safe space.

If you have an issue with them, instead of bitching about it, deal with it, bring order to the chaos and do something other than complain. If you think the tone is too aggressive, nihilistic, preachy, etc and you state that it will be seen as a weakness and they double down.

Humans are not logical animals. You fight an argument on emotional terms more than logical ones. You have to win both hearts and minds, but people will always prioritise their emotional state. No fact or logic will sway that because if they feel victimised, abused, angry, spiteful, deranged, controlled, happy, or joyous, no fact will sway that, and you will be seen as an enemy.

There is a reason we call it the mob.