Not to mention the games advertised on ZAM are about a million times more enjoyable than XIV too

Not to mention the games advertised on ZAM are about a million times more enjoyable than XIV too

meh, zam sucked for a long time anyway

very much appreciated for the fill in FusionX. i never expected such a great explanation, and just knowing that there is more than a couple sites for reference (i like to cross check) makes me very excited to continue and contribute where i can to the cool guys like you who dedicate far more time to things like this
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Gennario Veltaine: Propieter of G&J's Pleather Pleasures

Way back at launch, ZAM was the horse I bet on. Everything seemed to be going well, then the forums because such a pit of vitriol I stopped reading them and only used it for items and synths. Then they never really recovered from all the changes of patch 1.18, so I didn't go there for that anymore either. I'm not sure if ZAM abandoned FFXIV or the FFXIV playerbase abandoned them. Then end result is the same though.

Zam, YG & Gamerescape are all pretty bad at keeping up to date with all the updates, I don't understand why since the official site/lodestone lists each and every change... just lazy mods wanting to build up a FFXIV community then realise they have to put some effort into actually keep information up to date. eg Gamerescape doesn't even have a page on (The Aurum Vale) lol fail... and mooglebox never used it as official site/disciplesofthehand seems enough for me atm


We have a group of people that put a lot of work and free time in to keep things up to date and accurate. Gahoo put it better than I ever could.Zam, YG & Gamerescape are all pretty bad at keeping up to date with all the updates, I don't understand why since the official site/lodestone lists each and every change... just lazy mods wanting to build up a FFXIV community then realise they have to put some effort into actually keep information up to date. eg Gamerescape doesn't even have a page on (The Aurum Vale) lol fail... and mooglebox never used it as official site/disciplesofthehand seems enough for me atm
We are well aware that there isn't a page for the Aurum Vale and we have been working on components to put into a raid template such as: http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Template_talk:Chest
Also, you know, you could always make the pages that are missing instead of complaining about them missing. Again, its not just the mods that run and populate the site. It's everyone. I feel like people keep missing the whole point of a community wiki. We're not a database site that updates itself.


Glad the explanation made sense! and props for any contributions you make!

I usually go to these sites if I am really stuck which means I don't see fit to update these wikis eg I have only done Aurum Vale twice as AF speed run...so I couldn't add just that. GE do better walkthroughs because they seem to be the harder info to find of this game, so I still use your site, just wish there were more end game players focused on updating your site. thxWe have a group of people that put a lot of work and free time in to keep things up to date and accurate. Gahoo put it better than I ever could.
We are well aware that there isn't a page for the Aurum Vale and we have been working on components to put into a raid template such as: http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Template_talk:Chest
Also, you know, you could always make the pages that are missing instead of complaining about them missing. Again, its not just the mods that run and populate the site. It's everyone. I feel like people keep missing the whole point of a community wiki. We're not a database site that updates itself.

My highest ranking gripe with Gamerescape isn't a lack of missing pages, it's that any information seems so hard to actually get too. Even if every page and article was present and fleshed out it's just painful trying to find it. This was my opinion when I first checked it out pre-launch through the early stage of the game and I just checked back in with the site and I still find this to be the case. And the podcasts, oh my the podcasts. I'm giving Aetheryte Radio another shot as I write this so we'll see if things have improved.
(So the content of the podcast seems to have improved greatly, but FusionX your audio. What are you doing to the human voice over there?)
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