Is this cheating?

[Noir]

I have seen Garuda parties resetting their 15 minutes abilities by abandoning Levequests at camp dragonhead?

is this against TOS?
is this cheating?

Lol. What's your point? You don't need that to kill Garuda. Maybe you think they do, and your jealousy won't make you get a pt invite for Garuda. So keep trying.. I bet you are one of these ppl that ask for a nerf for all classes which you don't play and are better than yours. Seriously, shouldn't you be learning how to play, instead of wasting time in the forums, trying to be the honest on the table. Ban ki moon will give you a medal for your jealo... Ops honesty.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

This isn't exploiting. Some people turn the garuda quest in as another class and then lose ALL of their abilities on longer cool downs. So, because they do this, they'll have to wait upwards to 20mins to enter again. Resetting cool downs consuming a leve allowance is a fair enough trade for 5 minutes less of waiting and doing nothing.

[Suirieko]

I'm even failing to see how this is an exploit. Here's how it breaks down:

1. Make a party, fight Garuda. Use 15 minutes ability, win or lose.

2. Go to Dragonhead leve camp, pop a faction leve, tehen abandon it. IT still costs the person who used the faction leve a leve allowance to do this.

3. 15 minutes timer, that was used in Garuda battle is reset before you even enter the Garuda battle.

Therefore, all it does is to reset your job abilitys timer outside of battle. It's not used in battle, hell it can't even be used in battle. This isn't the sort of thing that can be used 'at any time'. Especially keeping in mind when you change classes/jobs, your timers are reset. (and most people do this to get EXP on other classes, mainly crafting claseses after winning Garuda).

People that are calling this an exploit and even going so far as calling this a cheat need to get over themselves. I fail to see how this is a huge issue:

It doesn't break any game balance.

It doesn't earn anyone any free loots unfairly.

It doesn't earn anyone any free exp or gil unfairly.

It doesn't give anyone any unfair advantage. (Remember ANYONE can do this).

All it does is to eliminate the unnecessary wait time needed to prepare for Garuda by having the 15 minutes timer immediately available instead of waiting an extra 15 minutes just to wait for the timer to count down.

What IS an exploit? Remember the time when you could indefinitely kill mobs under necrologos leve and gain yourself tons of EXP?

Or how about we look at FFXI, where everyone abused a game glitch that allows people to 'triple' duplicate the game loot from Salvage or Nyzul or Assaults.

Or how about someone abused a game glitch where a certain item could be sold for 2 million gil a piece to an NPC.

Those were blatant exploits, and in the latter two, people were banned for this.

If anything, by all rights, this "exploit" is worse than the power leveling Exploit that Yoshi-P, himself, clearly had no problem with.

[Doho]

this first rule about fight club...

[darkstarpoet1]

I'm even failing to see how this is an exploit.

it's not a big deal or anything major, but it would be technically an exploit. an exploit is anything done in game that is not for the intended reason. i do not think that starting a leve just to reset your timers and then abandoning it is why it was put in game. that is in place for people that run leves being able to run multiple leves and using their abilities in each one. doing that for a different reason is, in fact, what an exploit is.

like many people have said it is not a major issue, but it is technically exploiting an in game feature for a reason other than it is intended. it is intended to reset your timers to do that leve and not for running garuda over and over by abandoning it.

[Renshi]

I have seen Garuda parties resetting their 15 minutes abilities by abandoning Levequests at camp dragonhead?

is this cheating?

So basically they are leaving their girlfriends to go to bed with other women in another camp so they can have fun earlier with their girlfriends again.
This is totally cheating.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

So basically they are leaving their girlfriends to go to bed with other women in another camp so they can have fun earlier with their girlfriends again.
This is totally cheating.

Wouldn't it be Garufrans?

[Colino]

I'd never say it's not an exploit, but it's hardly worth condemning or patching. You pay the price of a leve token (sort of) just to save some time. It doesn't help with the fight in any way whatsoever.

[Sol_Aureus]

People don't seem to understand what an exploit is.

Exploiting is using game mechanics in a manner that they were not intended to be used to gain an advantage. The cooldown reset feature on levequests is probably a leftover mechanic for when you had quests with guild marks that you had to complete with certain classes, so it allowed you to switch classes and start the levequest without having to wait for cooldowns.

So yes, this is an exploit.

Whether or not it's a big enough deal to be considered "cheating" is entirely subjective. Personally I don't think it's a big deal at all.

[DarthTaru]