Warrior PvP Feedback - experienced warriors

[Gserpent]

You should take your own advice. Thank God you're not on my datacenter.

Why, because I'd be farming you for points until you ragequit the queues? You aren't very good, based on how you present your opinions here. You're like a blue parser that talks a bunch of smack. Better than the overwhelming majority of players, but that's just lead you to get a big ego.

[drtasteyummy]

I think warrior is balanced in the sense that everyone should be like them, weaknesses and strengths, but if you look at the (most) other classes, warrior of course seems like a clown in contrast to them. Personally, I would rather have the other classes weaker instead of having another class in the roflcopter meta.

[Gserpent]

I think warrior is balanced in the sense that everyone should be like them, weaknesses and strengths, but if you look at the (most) other classes, warrior of course seems like a clown in contrast to them. Personally, I would rather have the other classes weaker instead of having another class in the roflcopter meta.

Hence why I keep saying they need to revert all these stupid potency boosts, or at least increase player HP across the board such that they no longer "count." TTK was already low to begin with, if they're increasing player DPS without increasing HP, it's just going to make it even lower. It's not a design direction with a lot of space to work in.

The thing is, there aren't that many classes that I'd say are actually overpowered right now. AST still is, GNB is (a little bit, only in tank or healer junction and with a team that can actually take advantage of the massive healing output), MNK shouldn't be able to 100-0 casters and ranged on demand every 60 sec, but that's... honestly kind of it. I think most people who think classes are too strong or are too weak, it's just in their heads.

I think CC has systemic issues aplenty, but not that many actual *balance* issues.

[Ransu]

Why, because I'd be farming you for points until you ragequit the queues? You aren't very good, based on how you present your opinions here. You're like a blue parser that talks a bunch of smack. Better than the overwhelming majority of players, but that's just lead you to get a big ego.

No, more like I'd get your worthless ass on my team as I facepalm watching you spam fire instead of ice on BLM and never CCing anything. Every single post you have made screams that you're complete trash at pvp.

Edit:

looooool

GNB overpowered? Ok.

[Gserpent]

Like I said, dude: tell yourself whatever lies make you feel better, but you are literally hitting every space on the "big ego blue parser" bingo sheet with how you act. You are clearly a mediocre player that thinks they're hot shit, and it's honestly pathetic. You can be better than this. You *should* be better than this, for your own sake if nothing else.

[Ransu]

Like I said, dude: tell yourself whatever lies make you feel better, but you are literally hitting every space on the "big ego blue parser" bingo sheet with how you act. You are clearly a mediocre player that thinks they're hot shit, and it's honestly pathetic. You can be better than this. You *should* be better than this, for your own sake if nothing else.

You're free to come to aether when data center visit opens up and duel me. Guarantee you'll lose every time. You can even pick the job I play.

I don't think I'm some kind of pro, but I know for a fact I'm better than you lol.

[Gserpent]

You're free to come to aether when data center visit opens up and duel me. Guarantee you'll lose every time. You can even pick the job I play.

I don't think I'm some kind of pro, but I know for a fact I'm better than you lol.

Probably, but that's because I don't waste any effort learning how to duel in a system that wasn't built for it and isn't balanced for it. Pretty sure Scholar wouldn't win very many duels, man.

[Divinemights]

Would be nice at least keep discussion civil?
Use your argument to persuasive other.
No one know who you are outside of your own datacenter, even that is a strength to claim everyone knows you.
Make proper argument, less peppy talks

[NyneSwordz]

I think warrior is balanced in the sense that everyone should be like them, weaknesses and strengths, but if you look at the (most) other classes, warrior of course seems like a clown in contrast to them. Personally, I would rather have the other classes weaker instead of having another class in the roflcopter meta.

The thing is I think the Warrior, as a tank, is flawed in its design. A tank is supposed to take damage for the team by drawing the opposing team's damage towards itself. And not only that, one would expect a tank to take less damage than non-tanks, and thus a tank mitigates damage the team takes as a whole by directing more of the damage towards himself.

A warrior is great at peeling enemy combatants away from team members, but he takes more damage than most of the cast - including most melee dps. So he doesn't mitigate how much damage the team takes as a whole, or increase the team's overall survivability because he himself is among the weakest of the team in terms survivability. What ends up happening is that a warrior will use blota and then be immediately targeted and destroyed, whereas other tanks can continue to mitigate damage and fulfill the role of the tank.

[NyneSwordz]

And sometimes, enemy members will seek out warriors to burn down first because they are often the least evasive and lease durable job on the field.

Another issue I have is how much health cost Orogeny is. As warrior has trouble even surviving enemy damage, layering such an immense upfront health cost on top of that only ensures the warrior's death. What's worse is the health cost on orogeny makes it ONLY worthwhile from a health cost v. damage dealt perspective when it is used to tag multiple enemies, the health cost scales up depending on current warrior health, and it does max damage ONLY when the warrior as at near full health. So what we have is an action that requires the warrior to sacrifice 20% of current health, that's over 12,000 hp, to deal 8,000 potency damage, requiring the Warrior to tag at least 2 enemies for it to be worth it from a health cost to damage ratio, and this isn't even taking into account damage reductions that enemies may have.