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    Themarvin's Avatar
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    Kurotora Iga
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    Zodiark
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    The Hunt is full of early pullers and griefers

    I think it is time that SE look over the hunt, namely for S ranks.

    Why not make it so when the S rank spawn, it then will be invulnerable for 10 minutes, giving more people the ability to get to it, instead of one douchebag fully on purpose pulls it just right after and on purpose for the most part to grief 100 of players and further more those whom actually spawned it as well.

    I think that SE has overlooked this for too long, also there is players that is on purpose putting certain A Ranks and S Ranks in position, so they are hard to fight due to their aoes, with the only purpose for that player to playerkill others on purpose, which is also griefing.

    When is SE going to do something about it once and for all, or make the system better.
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    Rica Elak'ha
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    They don't have an invulnerability because Hunts/S-Ranks were never intended to be community content that has everyone wait for it. The wait time and etiquette is something the community put in place, so from SE's PoV, it's working as intended.
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    I'm taking Lore way too seriously. And I'm not sorry about that.

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    Kris Goldenshield
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    While they are indeed working as intended, SE does have a long history of adjusting content based on how players use the content.

    For example, in FF11, Samurai was meant to be a tank and Ninja a DPS, but players found a way to make it work in the opposite way and in subsequent expansions, SE built those jobs to be the role players used them as.

    In 14, the end of ARR’s castrum is a good example of changing content because of how players do the content.

    At the end of the day, I would urge SE not to change current S rank mobs, but perhaps look at how Guildwars 2 does World Bosses and adopt that as a sort of SS rank. For those who don’t know, World Bosses pop on set timers, starting typically with one or more of their version of FATES. So rather than a 10 min invuln, there are things happening that lead up to the boss popping.
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    Marcelloix Ostoiraint
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    hunts

    did a few runs when hunts started and found them to be very toxic so sence then i just do solo now to get my nutty sacks.
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    There is nothing you can do to stop me from manifesting from the aetherial sea and immediately pulling the S rank mob.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaconBits View Post
    There is nothing you can do to stop me from manifesting from the aetherial sea and immediately pulling the S rank mob.
    Did you help spawning it?
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    Doesn't matter if they helped spawn it. Any player is free to pull any hunt mob they want. Everything good about hunts has been community driven and not an inherent part of the game system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    They don't have an invulnerability because Hunts/S-Ranks were never intended to be community content that has everyone wait for it. The wait time and etiquette is something the community put in place, so from SE's PoV, it's working as intended.
    I short invulnerability window wouldn't really harm to be fair. It wouldn't stop someone from ninja pulling the moment it ended but it would at least give a window for people to group up and get there. Blizzard did a similar thing to the Sha of Anger world boss in World of Warcraft. It's still farmed by some players to this day for it's low drop chance mount drop but the content is also so old that it dies within seconds. They added a small invulnerability on spawn/respawn so people could actually get it tagged rather than missing the kill. Sure, you can still miss a kill, but you get a small window that doesn't leave people waiting for ages after it spawns but reduces the change to miss out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johners View Post
    I short invulnerability window wouldn't really harm to be fair. It wouldn't stop someone from ninja pulling the moment it ended but it would at least give a window for people to group up and get there. Blizzard did a similar thing to the Sha of Anger world boss in World of Warcraft. It's still farmed by some players to this day for it's low drop chance mount drop but the content is also so old that it dies within seconds. They added a small invulnerability on spawn/respawn so people could actually get it tagged rather than missing the kill. Sure, you can still miss a kill, but you get a small window that doesn't leave people waiting for ages after it spawns but reduces the change to miss out.
    how short? 5 minutes? 10 minutes? 30 seconds?
    When does it start? when it spawns? when someone first spots it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    I think it is time that SE look over the hunt, namely for S ranks.

    Why not make it so when the S rank spawn, it then will be invulnerable for 10 minutes, giving more people the ability to get to it, instead of one douchebag fully on purpose pulls it just right after and on purpose for the most part to grief 100 of players and further more those whom actually spawned it as well.

    I think that SE has overlooked this for too long, also there is players that is on purpose putting certain A Ranks and S Ranks in position, so they are hard to fight due to their aoes, with the only purpose for that player to playerkill others on purpose, which is also griefing.

    When is SE going to do something about it once and for all, or make the system better.
    I can tell someone has never played WoW with world bosses and rare elite spawns.
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