Warrior Material

[Frein]

False. DPSing on Ifrit with MRD and was red in the majority of the battle before hellfire. You could do it with WAR as well, just have to be more careful on combos.

WAR is NOT just a tanking job, so get that out your head please and thank you

Your tank must have sucked. WAR single-target DPS is not very good at all, and even less so at Ifrit where you can't just constantly go all out the way the tank can.

[DeadRiser]

Your tank must have sucked. WAR single-target DPS is not very good at all, and even less so at Ifrit where you can't just constantly go all out the way the tank can.

Your own opinion, but don't shove your opinion down everyone's throat. MRD/WAR can DD pretty decent if given the chance.

[Molly_Millions]

Your own opinion, but don't shove your opinion down everyone's throat. MRD/WAR can DD pretty decent if given the chance.

With my GC gear on, I can out DD everyone in the Garuda fight but the BLMs.

[Frein]

Your own opinion, but don't shove your opinion down everyone's throat. MRD/WAR can DD pretty decent if given the chance.

No, it's not my opinion. It's fact. You have DRG and MNK at 50, so you should know they blow WAR out of the water against a single target.

[DeadRiser]

No, it's not my opinion. It's fact. You have DRG and MNK at 50, so you should know they blow WAR out of the water against a single target.

But you have to realize they aren't the best pick.

What if your party so happens to mess up on nails and not get them all down? At least as a MRD I can heal myself plus I have at least 600+ more health than the other two classes/jobs you are talking about.

It's not ALWAYS about dps, sometimes it's about survival. And a MRD/WAR has a bigger healthpool which means more survival as a DD

[Frein]

But you have to realize they aren't the best pick.

What if your party so happens to mess up on nails and not get them all down? At least as a MRD I can heal myself plus I have at least 600+ more health than the other two classes/jobs you are talking about.

It's not ALWAYS about dps, sometimes it's about survival. And a MRD/WAR has a bigger healthpool which means more survival as a DD

That's completely off-topic. The question was, can a warrior use -enmity? My argument was that in situations where you want to avoid aggro, you're not going to get it either way, and in situations where you want aggro, you don't want -enmity.

[DeadRiser]

That's completely off-topic. The question was, can a warrior use -enmity? My argument was that in situations where you want to avoid aggro, you're not going to get it either way, and in situations where you want aggro, you don't want -enmity.

Off topic? No it's not "off topic". I'm right and you are just saying that because you know I'm right lol. I can't tell you how many times I've survived hellfire because something happened with nails.. while the other dd's just died.

People can use -enmity. It's not a bad thing because WAR isn't JUST a tank. Get it out your head please and thanks

[Frein]

Off topic? No it's not "off topic". I'm right and you are just saying that because you know I'm right lol. I can't tell you how many times I've survived hellfire because something happened with nails.. while the other dd's just died.

People can use -enmity. It's not a bad thing because WAR isn't JUST a tank. Get it out your head please and thanks

You're completely ignoring what I say. I'm not saying WAR is always useless for any non-tank role, I'm saying there are no situations where you'd want -enmity. Do you not see how these are completely different things? At what point during Ifrit did -enmity help your survive Hellfire? It didn't, and that's not what we were discussing. We were discussing materia choices.

Non-main tank warriors work well in many fights like Garuda, Myrmidon Princess and Castrum Novum, but as DD against a single target (like Ifrit or Chimera), WAR kind of sucks. No matter what, you can't deal enough damage to pull hate from the tank even if he has 0 +enmity, unless he goes AFK during the fight, so you don't need -enmity. WAR DD is only efficient when you need AoE that is a) physical damage, b) provided by a sturdy character, or both.

[Kagato]

No, it's not my opinion. It's fact. You have DRG and MNK at 50, so you should know they blow WAR out of the water against a single target.

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