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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100

    Can we get more ways to get timeworn artifacts?

    There are currently only two ways to get timeworn artifacts. There are 3 a run of DR or a possible drop in POTD. The POTD drop rate is abysmal. I've been doing 51-60 almost every day for hours since Saturday, mainly because it's just about impossible to go any higher than that, and I've gotten 13. Most of those were 7 I got on Saturday in 8 hours. DR for me isn't an option. I didn't enjoy the fights so I have not run that instance past the required time.

    When you look at previous steps, there were a variety of options to keep things fresh. Fates drops were in more than one zone. Raid series (outside of the 180 step) allowed for drops from any entry in the series. Some steps gave guaranteed daily drops from certain roulettes or dungeon ranges.

    And the step after this, raw emotions, are available in a wide variety of places, including a guaranteed drop from 70 dungeons. It's only this step that is so limited.

    Can we get these drops in more places? It would make sense to make them guaranteed on a run of a 60 dungeon. Or possibly a daily for 50+. That would bring this step more in line with the other steps, which gave players a choice in the content they utilized.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Agreed. Perhaps add them to level 80 dungeons, or the level 60 (and maybe 70) alliance raids? (With some kind of balanced token system so it's not Void Ark forevermore.)

    Or just let us buy the things from our GC/poetics/whatever like the Anima pieces. Make them expensive if need be.

    PotD is only useful as an alternative if you have jobs at a level to earn good EXP there. I passed that point long ago.
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Would definitely be nice. I got 3 artifacts in queue that I want but I do NOT want to do POTD runs for and DR runs are nightmares to organize in the time windows I play in.

    Like.. let me grind light or whatever sure, just let me have some progression on my terms.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Halin Fluffybuns
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    To be honest they should remove the small chance drop from POTD and make it a guaranteed from any level of POTD but keep it at 1 drop so you still have to do at least a little bit of grinding
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    I'd be wholly amused if they somehow put the token loot in NieR raid completions. Maybe that oughta force slightly more NieR raid popping in Alliance Raid.....very slightly.

    But yeah, at least adding them into one or two of the daily roulette reward would be a nice change. The 50/60/70/80 or/and Levelling perhaps would be the best candidate imho.
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    Ivan Moondiver
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    Honestly can see it in 50/60/70/80 roulette and ShB raids just to give some incentive.
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    Knives Jonquil
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    Please do this, Square. My family (of relics) is dying.
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    Saraide Derosa
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    I always found that step very annoying because I really dont want to play PotD and delubrum is predictably a rotting husk of content.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    It was always pretty crazy to me they didn't put each step in a daily roulette. It would have the added benefit of helping players in need. Could have added DR to alliance roulette as well.
    • 5/6/7/8 - Bitter Memories
    • Alliance - Timeworn Roulette
    • Normal Raids - Raw Emotions
    • PvP - etc etc
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Thalia Beckford
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    Lot of great suggestions in this thread. I would be perfectly happy if any floor of POTD was a guaranteed drop. I was in there for about 6?7? hours yesterday and got 2 drops. Ran things I don't know how many times. That's just an insane rate.

    This is also one thing that would get me to seek out the Nier raids, so I like the suggestion of using ShB raids, too.

    And hopefully they are looking at threads like these for feedback on Endwalker's weapons. They can still have an adventure zone with other things to do in it that also gives relic drops/updates (and at the same rate as outside that zone so it keeps things balanced) but also have a variety of content outside that zone where players can get their updates doing the things they enjoy and on their own terms.
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