So devs don't understand math.

[goliath2172]

I am refering to STILL locking out 3/4 of the wards of ALL housing areas for guilds only. There are hundreds of guilds wanting housing but there are MILLIONS of private people who want housing. Take the restriction off of the first 18 wards already. I already own a house so I am not being selfish I just see this and massively unfair to the larger group of people who are looking for a housing. And now there will be hundreds of bids on every house for private housing and then look at the guild wards and you have maybe 5 bidders. Wake up and do the math this is wrong.

[DrWho2010]

there are too many people that want private SINGLE houses. the current set up will most likely NEVER be able to provide them with one.

What is probably the theory is that all these people that want housing should create FC's and SHARE housing. The more people that band together the more people that can obtain "housing" for themselves when FC housing is acquired.

BUT the intrinsically selfish nature of people dictates that "I am me and I want my own house and I want to own it alone so I have control" is what most people complain about when there is not enough "private" housing available.

[ameliaw]

there are too many people that want private SINGLE houses. the current set up will most likely NEVER be able to provide them with one.

What is probably the theory is that all these people that want housing should create FC's and SHARE housing. The more people that band together the more people that can obtain "housing" for themselves when FC housing is acquired.

BUT the intrinsically selfish nature of people dictates that "I am me and I want my own house and I want to own it alone so I have control" is what most people complain about when there is not enough "private" housing available.

This is probably what they thought, but it will backfire. It pushes people into doing solo FCs, so it is a little damaging to the community.
Anyway, there's absolutely no way all FC houses will be filled, so give it a few months(until 6.2, maybe?) and the pool of private houses will grow a bit. Too bad it will still be far from enough.

[Jojoya]

there are too many people that want private SINGLE houses. the current set up will most likely NEVER be able to provide them with one.

What is probably the theory is that all these people that want housing should create FC's and SHARE housing. The more people that band together the more people that can obtain "housing" for themselves when FC housing is acquired.

BUT the intrinsically selfish nature of people dictates that "I am me and I want my own house and I want to own it alone so I have control" is what most people complain about when there is not enough "private" housing available.

Except it's not really FC housing for the group. It's FC housing for the FC Master and those the FC Master decides can have access to the housing features. Everyone else is effectively a visitor even though they're FC members.

Players are looking for a personal creative outlet but that requires a measure of control so they can express themselves. That control is absent when access is granted at someone else's whim and that person has the ability to override the player's personal choices, not to mention has given access to others also able to override the player's choice. That's why the demand for personal housing is so high - no one else can interfere.

[Jaquan]

Except it's not really FC housing for the group. It's FC housing for the FC Master and those the FC Master decides can have access to the housing features. Everyone else is effectively a visitor even though they're FC members.

Players are looking for a personal creative outlet but that requires a measure of control so they can express themselves. That control is absent when access is granted at someone else's whim and that person has the ability to override the player's personal choices, not to mention has given access to others also able to override the player's choice. That's why the demand for personal housing is so high - no one else can interfere.

How about getting an apartment then? You'll have limits but it's your own space, costs fraction of what the house costs and you'll never lose it. Seen enough barely decorated houses to feel more than enough people doesn't really commit to the house as much as they claim they do/would.

[Jojoya]

How about getting an apartment then? You'll have limits but it's your own space, costs fraction of what the house costs and you'll never lose it. Seen enough barely decorated houses to feel more than enough people doesn't really commit to the house as much as they claim they do/would.

Apartments lack gardening, which is a feature players commonly want access to.

Apartments lack the ability to place outdoor furnishings.

Apartments lack multiple floors, which makes certain certain decorating tricks impossible without the use of third party mods. Why can players doze on the Manor Couch on the ground floor of my FC's small? Because I floated a bed in the basement up to the ceiling directly under the couch. Try to hide a bed in an apartment to do the same trick uses up a lot of valuable space (and a greater percentage of the item limit). Want a marble staircase? You can do that in a house by floating Marble Paritions up through the ceiling of a lower floor. You can't do it in an apartment.

Don't get me wrong - I'm a proponent for more use of apartments, especially by players worried about taking breaks from the game and worried about demolition. What's the point of having a house in a game you rarely play? But there still are not enough houses for the players who would make regular use of them and want access to the things an apartment can't provide.

As for barely decorated houses, there can be multiple reasons such as the player only wants access to garden/workshop but neither are available without house ownership, or the player likes more sparsely decorated areas. Not everyone wants a house cluttered up like a bad thrift shop.

[Eraden]

Apartments lack gardening, which is a feature players commonly want access to.

Apartments lack the ability to place outdoor furnishings.

Apartments lack multiple floors, which makes certain certain decorating tricks impossible without the use of third party mods. Why can players doze on the Manor Couch on the ground floor of my FC's small? Because I floated a bed in the basement up to the ceiling directly under the couch. Try to hide a bed in an apartment to do the same trick uses up a lot of valuable space (and a greater percentage of the item limit). Want a marble staircase? You can do that in a house by floating Marble Paritions up through the ceiling of a lower floor. You can't do it in an apartment.

Don't get me wrong - I'm a proponent for more use of apartments, especially by players worried about taking breaks from the game and worried about demolition. What's the point of having a house in a game you rarely play? But there still are not enough houses for the players who would make regular use of them and want access to the things an apartment can't provide.

As for barely decorated houses, there can be multiple reasons such as the player only wants access to garden/workshop but neither are available without house ownership, or the player likes more sparsely decorated areas. Not everyone wants a house cluttered up like a bad thrift shop.

I would tend to agree with all of what Jojoya said here. It's also the reason why, I suspect, that Island Sanctuaries are being developed. The developers don't appear to have any interest in dealing with the housing issue in any definitive way. I believe they are implementing Island Sanctuaries to provide players with access to gardening without having to deal with the housing issue.

[Besame]

Except it's not really FC housing for the group. It's FC housing for the FC Master and those the FC Master decides can have access to the housing features. Everyone else is effectively a visitor even though they're FC members.

Players are looking for a personal creative outlet but that requires a measure of control so they can express themselves. That control is absent when access is granted at someone else's whim and that person has the ability to override the player's personal choices, not to mention has given access to others also able to override the player's choice. That's why the demand for personal housing is so high - no one else can interfere.

I agree Jo. Ever been in someone's FC and watch some person with a hair across their *** clean it out and then bail??? I sure have hehe. No snatch n' grab is gonna happen on my watch anyway.

[Hasrat]

It's been literally one lottery cycle. One buggy cycle that took up a month of their time trying to correct. Maybe give them half a minute to adjust ward restrictions.

I mean, it's never going to be enough to satisfy everyone wanting personals anyway. But damn this is incredibly impatient.

[Avoidy]

It's been literally one lottery cycle. One buggy cycle that took up a month of their time trying to correct. Maybe give them half a minute to adjust ward restrictions.

I mean, it's never going to be enough to satisfy everyone wanting personals anyway. But damn this is incredibly impatient.

The unfortunate thing about the timing you mentioned is that one month allowed shell FCs created with the new system to start purchasing FC ward homes. Hence, the urgency. Square paused bidding for everyone during the month that was supposed to act as a buffer zone/precaution against these shell FCs, and if SE doesn't do something soon, then it won't matter if former fc wards become individual wards because they'll all be taken by shell FCs anyway. This problem will compound with the next lottery cycle.
A month is also a long time to look at something and realize it doesn't work, especially when FC wards sat empty for a month not because of the 0 glitch, but because there just wasn't demand on like 90% of the plots.