I recommend achievement hunting!

[Vav2021]

I mean most RPG's achievement are like that no? What even they should give? 10 phials of Fantasia?

back in the old MMO i played, they would typically reward mounts, pets, and titles. Albeit, the mounts were usually recolored, and the pets were unimpressive. Occasionally, there were toys, but meh. And to put it into perspective on how cheap the rewards were, there was an achievement that required one to get all achievements in all holiday events, making it year-round chain achievement hunt... for a purple dragon mount.

[Krotoan]

back in the old MMO i played, they would typically reward mounts, pets, and titles. Albeit, the mounts were usually recolored, and the pets were unimpressive. Occasionally, there were toys, but meh. And to put it into perspective on how cheap the rewards were, there was an achievement that required one to get all achievements in all holiday events, making it year-round chain achievement hunt... for a purple dragon mount.

There are mounts pets and titles for FFXIV's achievements too?

And glam gear. ... admittedly a lot of it I won't wear but it's there.

[Ryaze]

back in the old MMO i played, they would typically reward mounts, pets, and titles. Albeit, the mounts were usually recolored, and the pets were unimpressive. Occasionally, there were toys, but meh. And to put it into perspective on how cheap the rewards were, there was an achievement that required one to get all achievements in all holiday events, making it year-round chain achievement hunt... for a purple dragon mount.

The Violet Proto-Drake was a reskin, but a reskin of a mount model that was otherwise only obtainable either as a rare world drop, a very low drop from a specific heroic boss, completing a meta-achievement for Heroic dungeons or from completing meta achievements in raiding. It also used to give 310% flying over other flying mounts of only 280%. The only other 310% flying for years was if you had unlocked certain raid mounts. It was a pretty big deal for years that "casual" players could get access to what was seen as an epic mount or otherwise unachievable mount speed increase. I knew a lot of people that happily worked towards getting their Violet-Proto Drakes.

They did eventually remove the 310% flying from the Violet-Proto Drake and other mounts and just made it a normal purchasable mount speed upgrade.

WoW's (and other MMOs) achievement system is leagues above FFXIV. There's just no comparison. There's interesting achievements that encourage exploration, quest completionism, beating bosses in unusual ways that often require doing mechanics "wrong" or flawlessly, hidden quest lines, etc. FFXIV has some good achievements like the Bozja duels, sightseeing, various ocean fishing achievements and reasonable but grindy completionism like the Bozja field notes. But the vast majority are either "Congrats, you beat this Main Story Quest which we've designed to be beaten by anyone with a pulse" or "congrats, you did this meaningless activity 5,000 times!" Achievements in FFXIV are either so easy to obtain that they're pointless, or they encourage/require unhealthy amounts of time invested into banal activates, like killing thousands of A and S ranks per expansion for a mount.

Just because other games in the genre are notorious for having bad achievement systems, doesn't mean FFXIV couldn't be better.

[Liam_Harper]

FF14 achievements aren't worth it at all for me. Too many of them are extremely grindy with no reward or simple participation achievements. There are way too many titles as rewards. There are very few worthwhile breakpoint achievements, like a mount at 50 mounts, 75 mounts, 100 mounts and so on. You also can't display them in any notable way and while I know "showing off" is looked down on in ff14, it's also a part of online gameplay to be able to share accomplishments. The minion and mount tabs are terrible too. All this combined makes it feel like achievements in this game aren't meant to be collected. It's designed so you can't get them all. They just added them in because they had to, but don't really want to make a big deal of it or make you want to do it.

I agree WoW did it better. I even liked that they displayed achievements in guild chat because spam aside, it was nice to "grats!" fellow guild members or receive a "grats" and it would provide a small form of interaction. Achievements for beating raid or dungeon bosses in unique ways added replayability and fun challenges and there were a lot of breakpoint achievements that made it worth collecting all the various things in the game. They were also designed so that you could get most of them over time. And they were visible, even on the forums and while no one really cared about achievements that much and you'd be ridiculed if you were toxic over it, it was just a nice perk to have that high score.

I'd love if ff14 revamped the achievement system and added incentive to collect them. It would provide a ridiculous amount of gametime at very little development cost.

[LittleImp]

Whenever you're bored, I recommend walking outside and picking up pebbles. Honestly, if you haven't picked up every single pebble in the world at least once, how can you possibly complain there is nothing to do?

[Vav2021]

Whenever you're bored, I recommend walking outside and picking up pebbles. Honestly, if you haven't picked up every single pebble in the world at least once, how can you possibly complain there is nothing to do?

I don't get it.

[Momo_Kozuki]

Whenever you're bored, I recommend walking outside and picking up pebbles. Honestly, if you haven't picked up every single pebble in the world at least once, how can you possibly complain there is nothing to do?

Does doing that give me a achievement achieved pop-up window? If not, then it is just self-imposed challenge. May as well do manual breathing.

[Minarisweet]

Seems like there is a bit of fighting... just wanted to remind im not saying you HAVE to be doing this if you are bored just saying you should try it out if you feel like me see if you like it or not. How I see it is just 100%ing a game which does make sense since yoshida tries to treat this game like its just another final fantasy title but its also in the end an mmorpg, so a lot of these achievements are very grindy.

Achievements are not a perfect system but its been pretty fun getting them and I think you should give it a chance too.

[Krotoan]

Seems like there is a bit of fighting... just wanted to remind im not saying you HAVE to be doing this if you are bored just saying you should try it out if you feel like me see if you like it or not. How I see it is just 100%ing a game which does make sense since yoshida tries to treat this game like its just another final fantasy title but its also in the end an mmorpg, so a lot of these achievements are very grindy.

Achievements are not a perfect system but its been pretty fun getting them and I think you should give it a chance too.

It's an expansive assortment of goals with rewards locked behind them.. nothing wrong with encouraging people to check them out.

There's so much to do in the game besides grinding endgame ilevels, it's nice to see others checking it out.

[MagicalChase]

Some people just like being mad no matter the topic. Personally I think it broadens your horizons on all the content in the game so it's worth at least checking out. Plus the mahjong titles are rarer and harder to get than the ultimate ones.