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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arazehl View Post
    It's listed under prohibited activity: "Purchasing a plot of land with the intent to resell it."

    https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...la=1&kid=68216
    That's going to be a part of the problem - proving the original purchase was made with the intent to resell.

    If a FC and its house sit mainly dormant between the time of house purchase and change of FC Master (or only activity is to add a new member that becomes FC Master after the 30 day wait), then that's a strong case for intent to resell.

    If it's been an active FC for several months/years after purchase with the house getting used, then there's no evidence the purchase was made with the intent to resell.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arazehl View Post
    Up to you to interpret it however you wish with whatever scenario you wish to muster up, be it current or future intent to resell it base on circumstances. I feel that all plots of land when relinquished should go back to the system for the next plot owner and not be allowed to line anyone's pockets for a system to work fairly. If these excuses were actually the case, then PF would be full of houses for resell. Rarely if ever these days do you see one in PF. Instead players with full intent decided to take another avenue and do it outside the game through a discord channel or reddit. So yeah just like with many other things against ToS, players take a different more questionable approach that goes beyond SE's reach.
    PF isn't currently full of houses for resell because it's too hard to get a house and established FCs aren't interested in selling (it's a non-issue in the case of personal houses now that relocation doesn't bypass the lottery or purchase timer). We talk about shell FCs being a problem for resale but the vast majority of them are created for personal use, not for resale purposes.

    Once the new NA and EU worlds are added and we're about 30 days out from when their housing will open, you'll probably start seeing some listings in PF again from FCs that want to transfer to the new worlds and need to do it in advance of housing opening dates. SE sees nothing wrong with players selling established FCs to other players to save them some effort. The objection is creating a FC solely to purchase houses for resale.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 05-28-2022 at 05:11 AM.

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    Arazehl's Avatar
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    Julianna Arrisit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    PF isn't currently full of houses for resell because it's too hard to get a house and established FCs aren't interested in selling (it's a non-issue in the case of personal houses now that relocation doesn't bypass the lottery or purchase timer). We talk about shell FCs being a problem for resale but the vast majority of them are created for personal use, not for resale purposes.
    It's a big problem with the shell FC's we all know. There is a lot used as personal housing too, these days. There will be little left if it kept going at this rate. I've noticed many shell FC's decorate their yards and once you go on the inside, (if you can get access) it's completely empty. I've seen tons of houses like that, that leave me puzzled by what their intent really is. Are they using the FC houses as as initially intended by the game or ranking it up for possible resell in the future for copious amount of profit, on some third party website or discord house buying channel? You're right it's hard to prove it without a doubt, this is why SE needs to close the big gaps, and loopholes of buying of FC's as personal housing. Make it impossible for an FC house to be bought for personal use period. It's unfair to those trying to run a legitimate FC and are in need of a place for their community of members when they have to compete with the shell FC buyers. Make personal housing more available, than less available with very few wards open to personal plot buying.
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    Oriana Alesong
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    In their defense, when I first got my current plot the yard was decorated the same day. I had a vision on how to decorate it and it was fairly easy. It took slightly over a month for me to tackle my interior. Interior decorating to me was not only more challenging, but I had to think for a long time how I wanted to utilize my space.
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