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    CC Rank should be linked to job

    Has anybody else noticed that it seems like people say "I'm crystal and can't derank now, lets try this job I suck at" and basically cause 4v5s sometimes? Why not link your CC rank to a specific job you play. A: It would give you multiple climbs to do, B: would stop people from switching in crystal to "learn" at the expensive of those trying to climb their numbers. This can't be that hard to implement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nytes View Post
    Has anybody else noticed that it seems like people say "I'm crystal and can't derank now, lets try this job I suck at" and basically cause 4v5s sometimes? Why not link your CC rank to a specific job you play. A: It would give you multiple climbs to do, B: would stop people from switching in crystal to "learn" at the expensive of those trying to climb their numbers. This can't be that hard to implement.
    Of course it wouldn't be hard, the problem is that it would go against Square-Enix's general policies of instant gratification and not requiring anything except ultimates to require *too* much player effort. Like you said, every class should have its own individual ranking. "New" classes will start at a higher rank than normal, based on your highest-ranked class's rank. So if you have Warrior up to Crystal, you might start at Gold 3 if you picked up Dragoon.

    But it's kind of pointless, isn't it? The ranking system does not measure player skill and, IMO, doesn't even try to. It's clearly not a skill-based matchmaking design system. I'm not sure really what it *is* supposed to be, honestly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gserpent View Post
    I'm not sure really what it *is* supposed to be, honestly.
    "When I play, the number goes up and that makes my brain produce the good chemicals"
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    The chances are higher that a player like that is in the other team.
    Enemy team has 5 potential bad player while your team only has 4.

    You just have to play enough matches so that these chances work in your favor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    The chances are higher that a player like that is in the other team.
    Enemy team has 5 potential bad player while your team only has 4.

    You just have to play enough matches so that these chances work in your favor.
    Don't take this as "I want to win every game". If it was easy, everybody would be crystal. The climb is part of the challenge. I simply want the lopsided matches due to people queing in on an off job at high ranks to end. Most of the time when you see it, it's only 1 player of 10. It's just a 50/50 shot of which team they are on. It's not a serious problem, just one that could be easily addressed IMHO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    The chances are higher that a player like that is in the other team.
    Enemy team has 5 potential bad player while your team only has 4.

    You just have to play enough matches so that these chances work in your favor.
    Wow, truly mastermind thoughts. You are getting griefed? Just play more games 4Head
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    Quote Originally Posted by drtasteyummy View Post
    Wow, truly mastermind thoughts. You are getting griefed? Just play more games 4Head
    Yes, that's how all team PvP games work.
    Many tried to fix it but non succeed.

    It is what it is and you always have to deal with teammates like that.

    And yes, play more to let the odds be in your favor.
    It's like rolling a dice. Do it 10 times and you maybe get a 1 50% of the rolls.
    Do it 100 times and you get the 1 15% of the rolls.
    Do it 1000 times and the 1 appears 16.7% of your rolls, same as any other number.
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    I actually would want this and would motivate me to play PvP more, since its acts like its own mini-game and achievement. Great suggestion!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    Yes, that's how all team PvP games work.
    Many tried to fix it but non succeed.

    It is what it is and you always have to deal with teammates like that.

    And yes, play more to let the odds be in your favor.
    It's like rolling a dice. Do it 10 times and you maybe get a 1 50% of the rolls.
    Do it 100 times and you get the 1 15% of the rolls.
    Do it 1000 times and the 1 appears 16.7% of your rolls, same as any other number.
    So you're telling me the best your brain could come up with was explaining a rule of three to me and ignoring that it's stupid idea that people who chill in the save haven grief people who want to climb the ladder further?

    If only we had a system against that? like separate jobs and a hidden elo. AH NO, NO, NO, then I guess everyone just has to deal with the fact that half of all games are troll games.

    I mean duh, it's a game about having fun, is it not? That's why they build in a ranked ladder and then give rewards based on the position of that ladder.
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    Last edited by drtasteyummy; 05-17-2022 at 10:48 PM.

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    Player Gserpent's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by GayRobot View Post
    "When I play, the number goes up and that makes my brain produce the good chemicals"
    Yeah, pretty much. Monkey brain numbers big happy is probably a big part why they made Midare auto-crit, etc. Feels good to see that big number at the end of your chain. I'd think that that sort of thing would allow for class-specific rankings, though. It's just like normal levels, you get to watch numbers go up.
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