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    Multi-level seasonal events and better collabs

    Every season, and most collab events for that matter. Is a level 15 fetch quest or FATE. Why not have multiple types of seasonal event quests at different level marks like Toram Online does with their seasons. For example their Hanami event last I check has like 4 variations based on level with different stories for each and a different boss line up that you kill for mats to make weapons and gear which also differs by level. It's fun, repeatable, and worth the time.

    Yet here it's almost always some lame lv 15 Fate with the only items you get from the vendor being stupid orchestra rolls, some sparklers no one uses, and the one outdoor furnishing item and earing/ring/a costume if you're lucky. It's also not something worth repeating as after a single run you basically get the good stuff and who is grinding these things?

    I'll give the FF15 collab credit in that it's long we get a replay of the Garuda boss fight with Noctis, it's engaging, you get his costume and you could even buy his car (Cid must be the wealthiest man in Eorzea from that) Then the Yokai Watch event which I've only seen once where you can get a yokai minion and win tokens doing fates and buy a unique weapon. There is a minion for each class which also makes it replay able and fun. But that's about it. (I'm not counting Nier as that's not really a collab but actually something they added to the game and supposedly it only happened due to someone taking Yoshi-P out for drinks or something)

    This is FF14! Why is a phone mmo outdoing it's seasonal and collabs when the phone MMO is pulling collabs with shows like Re:zero or SAO or other big series? (INB4 Go play that then, well, I would but that's the only thing Toram has going for it sadly).
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    I don't think I'd want a collab event with every anime under the sun.
    This isn't Fortnite.
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    the reason seasonal events are level 15 is so new players who dont have level 90 yet (or free trial users) can still do the events and unlock the rewards without being forced to wait a year for the items they missed cause they werent high enough level to do the quest goes up for sale on the mogstation
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    They are level 15 so that everyone can participate. A lot of people never reach level 50 or get there very slowly, so being level 15 allows the newest players to join in and not feel excluded.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryouma17 View Post
    the reason seasonal events are level 15 is so new players who dont have level 90 yet (or free trial users) can still do the events and unlock the rewards without being forced to wait a year for the items they missed cause they werent high enough level to do the quest goes up for sale on the mogstation

    Yes, which if you read my post I stated multiple variations of. Have a lv 15 event and other levels of the same event, 15, 65, 75, 85. with maybe a story and boss variation. For example, to use the Hanami seasonal in Toram there is a noob friendly low level event hosted simultaneously with the other 3 higher level events that follow the same storyline as the first just with new bosses and gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    They are level 15 so that everyone can participate. A lot of people never reach level 50 or get there very slowly, so being level 15 allows the newest players to join in and not feel excluded.
    As I just replied to Ryuouma. Please fully read post. Most MMO have a seasonal event thats broken up into different levels for different leveled players often with different gear and story but are all hosted at the same time as a seasonal even.t
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    I don't think I'd want a collab event with every anime under the sun.
    This isn't Fortnite.
    Then don't play the collabs. But many MMO's like Phantasy Star do collabs with anime, this is a Japanese anime-ish game you're playing if you've ever glanced at the seasonal artwork and the cat ears on your head.
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    I personally like how the events in FFXIV are done so casual players can enjoy them. Its at a low level, and they do not miss out on any of the story content for being new to the game. I feel adding 'tiers' to the combat would go against the philosophy behind how FFXVI works in a way. They want people to play these outside events together, a fun side quest rather then a challange.

    That said, I would like to see events that have more... farmable content? Like I feel once we do the story quest then thats it, there is no real reason to go back to it unless you want to farm the confetti. Give reasons to farm the FATE more then once, more items to collect like past event gear, rather thne putting it on the store.

    I would not mind some more anime-like collabs to be honest. I always like how FFXVI fits the collabs into their lore. That could be why we do not get as many. Could be more of a legal issue to make stories around such collabs rather then other games which could just have cosmetics or gatcha elements.
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    Last edited by Hurlstone; 05-25-2022 at 09:40 AM.

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    I'm really glad that we don't have to farm them usually. I put seasonal events off to the last minute and want to get them done quickly, because I have too many other things to focus on. Being pressured to finish a grind within a short timeframe isn't fun.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    I'm really glad that we don't have to farm them usually. I put seasonal events off to the last minute and want to get them done quickly, because I have too many other things to focus on. Being pressured to finish a grind within a short timeframe isn't fun.
    However putting them off to the last minute and doing to get out of the way defeats the purpose. It should be something you do throughout the season multiple times.
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