Arcanist and Summoner: a possible solution

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The problem is SE will never satisfy everyone. You know this and so does SE. I’m sure they spent allot of money on new summoner and they aren’t going back to add old skills they removed. There has not been a huge outcry for dots returning so SE will not. It doesn’t benefit new summoner at all. Plus summoner still has one dot during Garuda phase. New summoner has its issues like all the other jobs but they need to build on this new summoner. Look forward not backwards.

I sympathize with the lot of you who miss the dots but at the end of the day and Yoshi himself said it. People complained that dots were not a part of what made summoners who they were. They summoned gods. Hopefully the next new job will be a mostly for job to satisfy those who enjoy dot oriented jobs. Bard also has dots but those maybe going away in 7.0 since they play no role in the game play anymore.

I'm sorry, I really don't want to sound rude and perhaps I am misunderstanding something but... did you in good faith read any one of my posts? The point of this was NEVER to implement back old things like DoTs to the new EW Summoner. The new Summoner should stay the way it is and receive improvements according to the new design the devs have created and many people seem to love very much. So, saying things like "it will not benefit new Summoner" makes no sense: otherwise, why would I repeatedly ask people who like it to suggest much needed thematically meaningful improvements?
The point of the thread is instead to SEPARATE — in a sense, FREE — this new Summoner from its old Arcanist roots, in order to salvage an almost fully-fledged kit that was liked by many and was discarded for no reason whatsoever. To put it in a another way: we are no longer dealing with one Job, but two. If you want to argue that this would take the spotlight away from EW Summoner, then you really must not have much faith in its worth design-wise.

Honestly, I can understand people who are cynical about this idea (I am not at all optimistic myself), I can understand people who find flaws with the specifics of my solution and welcome suggestions with open arms, I can understand you calling out my utopian idealism. But why go off topic with comments that disregard the point of the thread itself? Once again: this is not meant to be a generic complaint thread that advocates for SMN to be reverted back to ShB or before, nor to propose a bad mixture of old and new.

You saying: "Hopefully the next new job will be mostly to satisfy those who enjoy dot oriented jobs" is just another way to express what I was trying to do here.