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    Anything but a troll, it’s getting old don’t you think?

    OP’s protest seems to aggravate further pressure as though the whole DPS forums is vastly over populated with SAM posts.

    I am not going to sugar coated but be direct & it’s absurd for anyone to beg further for changes or “else i unsub” basically puts you on that tantrum.

    All in all continue to live under this illusion which otherwise hasn’t given much fruit.

    Carry on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vencio View Post
    Anything but a troll, it’s getting old don’t you think?

    OP’s protest seems to aggravate further pressure as though the whole DPS forums is vastly over populated with SAM posts.

    I am not going to sugar coated but be direct & it’s absurd for anyone to beg further for changes or “else i unsub” basically puts you on that tantrum.

    All in all continue to live under this illusion which otherwise hasn’t given much fruit.

    Carry on
    If the majority of SAM players don't like a change, they should say so that way Squeenix can listen and change it. This isn't even the first time this has happened. SCH and energy drain in ShB immediately comes to mind. Heck, NIN THIS EXPANSION had a bad change that a lot of ninja players didn't like that they reverted because of how vocal they were.
    If a portion of a playerbase doesn't like something, make it known. That's the only way things can improve for you. I hope they listen to people that play samurai and give them what they want.
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    Curing Waltz is old and busted. The new hotness is Benediction Boogie. Make it happen, Squeenix!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flatopia View Post
    If the majority of SAM players don't like a change, they should say so that way Squeenix can listen and change it. This isn't even the first time this has happened. SCH and energy drain in ShB immediately comes to mind. Heck, NIN THIS EXPANSION had a bad change that a lot of ninja players didn't like that they reverted because of how vocal they were.
    If a portion of a playerbase doesn't like something, make it known. That's the only way things can improve for you. I hope they listen to people that play samurai and give them what they want.
    Same with hagakure. They took that away at launch of ShB and brought it back a few patches later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Same with hagakure. They took that away at launch of ShB and brought it back a few patches later.
    I am scared they will bring kaiten back and remove auto crits only to make kaiten do so. This wont change state of how trash sam is currently in but make them sound like they listened to feedback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flatopia View Post
    If the majority of SAM players don't like a change, they should say so that way Squeenix can listen and change it. This isn't even the first time this has happened. SCH and energy drain in ShB immediately comes to mind. Heck, NIN THIS EXPANSION had a bad change that a lot of ninja players didn't like that they reverted because of how vocal they were.
    If a portion of a playerbase doesn't like something, make it known. That's the only way things can improve for you. I hope they listen to people that play samurai and give them what they want.
    Absolutely. Especially since Yoshida explicitly asked for feedback since he probably was aware these changes would be quite controversial. Though I believe people will be more likely to post feedback if it is negative than positive, it is undeniable that this has shaken the samurai community. I imagine we will hear something about at the next live letter.
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    Who said they were changing back?
    Adapt or don't.
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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBriggs304 View Post
    Who said they were changing back?
    Adapt or don't.
    You can adapt and still have grievances. I'm only continuing to play sam because I don't feel like grinding a gear set again for another job. If MNK was more like pre-endwalker MNK I'd switch to that, but its not so I pretty much only play sam during raid nights and will likely switch to a new job during the next raid tier.

    Current SAM isn't fun. Adapting to the changes doesn't change the fact that the way sam plays now is horrid and literally every single sam player agrees that its horrid. We got hagakure back during shadowbringers, so its entirely possible we can get kaiten back and the auto crit removed in the next major patch for endwalker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBriggs304 View Post
    Who said they were changing back?
    Adapt or don't.
    Adapt you mean play roulette that class i choose for next savage tier will not get stomped by devs like sam?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stasya View Post
    Adapt you mean play roulette that class i choose for next savage tier will not get stomped by devs like sam?
    A friend of mine was in the top 10 for DSR world first clears. Normally he plays DRG, but he also enjoyed SAM quite a bit during ShB and early EW, so I asked him what he thought of the 6.1 SAM changes. His response was "total trash" and then he went on to say how he keeps at least three melee dps leveled and geared at all times because you never know when SE's "balancing" is going to come along and ruin things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    I still wouldn't do it [double weave oGCD's on GNB] because there is a good chance to mess up the rotation and it can easily cause a wipe because of server ticks.

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    I feel ya but if you like busier jobs that can still do really good damage I'd say try out Nin. It took me a bit of time to start doing Samurai like DPS with em but now I'm clearing Endsinger EX with em and topping the charts doing so.

    Or alternatively try leveling other jobs in general. I found a few to be surprisingly fun when I thought they wouldn't be (such as DNC).

    I do still hold out hope for a SAM revert though as I'm never touching the now brain dead and boring job again until that point, but at the very least there are other jobs out there you may have fun with. (Until SE decides to destroy them as well).
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    Last edited by KurenXIV; 05-25-2022 at 04:11 AM.

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