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Thread: About Reaper.

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    About Reaper.

    Now that the job has been released for awhile, what are our thoughts?


    Personally:


    The Good

    -Minimal positionals
    -Flows really well
    -Safe
    -Slower
    -Looks great
    -Balanced
    -Fun


    The Bad

    -Bad DPS
    -Awkward Buff
    -Nothing feels impactful
    -Burst phase is too long to utilize most party buffs
    -Debuff based damage buff



    What I would do differently:

    1. Would rather them take damage out of 1-2-3 and put more meat into Enshroud, supposed to be a burst phase but barely scratches other job's in that category. Communio should hit a lot harder too, even if its just a damage adjustment.

    2. Revamp Arcane Circle entirely, feels like they ran out of ideas on how to make this buff different than the rest, feels kinda crappy, Plentiful Harvest should share the same button with the buff too.

    3. Revamp Soul Reaver, its strange that it is a buff that stacks up to two (only after Gluttony) but you can never stack it. Strangely rigid system in a job that seems to be based on a flexible rotation.


    Thoughts?
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    I just hate how long the GCD is. I am always chasing for my Enshroud windows to feel something.

    Borrowed Time also didn't need to be nerfed. It went from a decent party utility to a personal.
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    you nailed the bad that's for sure
    it only flows so well because they made it so basic that a squirrel could probably figure it out

    scrap the entire thing
    reaper is so incredibly boring
    it doesn't even feel like a reaper

    where's the necromancy ffs
    besides the pet there is no sense of theme in this class

    imo:
    -should have been a pet class
    -selfish dps
    -arcane circle ? delete or make it a self buff like RoF but pet goes berserk
    -rotation between bursts needs some spice to it, needs less of a burst phase and more of a consistent damage output so that the point above could be more useful
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    Quote Originally Posted by VirusOnline View Post
    you nailed the bad that's for sure
    it only flows so well because they made it so basic that a squirrel could probably figure it out

    scrap the entire thing
    reaper is so incredibly boring
    it doesn't even feel like a reaper

    where's the necromancy ffs
    besides the pet there is no sense of theme in this class

    imo:
    -should have been a pet class
    -selfish dps
    -arcane circle ? delete or make it a self buff like RoF but pet goes berserk
    -rotation between bursts needs some spice to it, needs less of a burst phase and more of a consistent damage output so that the point above could be more useful
    They've stated before that they won't make Necromancer or Thief a playable thing because they border on the bad/evil side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    They've stated before that they won't make Necromancer or Thief a playable thing because they border on the bad/evil side.
    That is ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    They've stated before that they won't make Necromancer or Thief a playable thing because they border on the bad/evil side.
    I really hope we can stop acting like we have the moral high ground in future expansions and make it a bit a grey zone. (I mean there already are some situations that border the evil side honestly) Jobs like thief would be an awesome addition!
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    this isnt an issue strictly with reaper, other jobs have it as well, but arbitrary button bloat from abilities that do the same thing, share a recast timer, but one for st and one for aoe.

    shadow/whorl of death

    soul scythe/soul slice

    ...just keep the aoe one, give it it's st counterparts potency, and x% reduced potency on all other targets. that syntax is literally already in reapers toolkit with communio

    same with warrior now with orogeny. does the exact same thing and serves the exact same purpose as upheaval, shares a cooldown with upheaval, its just aoe and upheavel is st. why? game already has too many buttons, why arbitrarily give it more when the job could be done with fewer buttons.

    that doesnt necessarily mean i think aoe damage should be tied into your standard st combo, but some level of consolidation can be achieved.

    other than that, i've been enjoying reaper.
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    The DPS for reaper feels fine to me. The percentage difference between reaper and dragoon, which probably ranks at the top right now, is not that much. Dragoon might be a bit high, actually. I mean they usually drift within a very minor percentage between one another and even then it can come down to the fights themselves and how the burst windows align with the fights. Dragoon might just align better with the fight mechanics at this tier than reaper does, and reapers own rotation kind of wants it to use Arcane Cricle ASAP rather than wait since a lot of the fights have an opening segment where it makes sense to use it.

    Also this game has a weird relationship with more skills resulting in higher damage potential. Reaper is pretty much a solid flowing dps, where as dragoon has a bunch of OGCDs it can weave in when it needs to as filler. RPR is very much like a "melee black mage" in practice because of the rotation.

    Also, no surprise but when someone looks at the damage potential, both reaper and machinist are in the same boat due to having a very similar flow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    They've stated before that they won't make Necromancer or Thief a playable thing because they border on the bad/evil side.
    When is reanimating a corpse or stealing an item eviler than constructing a demonic version of yourself and letting it possess your body?
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    Last edited by Vryn; 05-24-2022 at 06:21 AM.

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