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    Quote Originally Posted by KumaAkuma View Post
    Ingame help says:

    Craftsmanship:
    Your ability to synthesize items with physical characteristics.

    Magic Craftsmanship:
    Your ability to synthesize items with magical characteristics.
    So gear with STR DEX and VIT modifiers are physical
    gear with PIE INT MND modifiers are magical
    and everything else is physical?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    Some sort of signifier on the item or recipe would really help with this issue.

    With one DoH lvl 50 and another very close, I still don't know which of the two craftsmanship types to gear up for on any given synth...
    I'm in the same boat
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    But we're still back at stage 1

    What is it that gives it that characteristic? It could still be the shards themselves!


    If it does come down to the item itself they really should have something defining what type it is - if it's magical or physical

    Especially since the game has the courtesy to 'explain' to us the difference between Craftsmanship and Magic Craftsmanship!
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    FFXIV economics - 'Stupid and demand'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hachi-Roku View Post
    I'll make you a deal.

    You can have gunblades if we can have Riflebhuj.
    Checka my game-face!
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/93195-Show-your-Miqo-te-!!?p=1288461&viewfull=1#post1288461

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    It doesn't say anything about crystals, just about the items being produced.
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    But what defines the items being produced?
    Which of their characteristics makes them magical or physical?

    It could still come down to the shards used in the recipe
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    Last edited by Fadigre; 05-27-2012 at 09:26 PM.
    FFXIV economics - 'Stupid and demand'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hachi-Roku View Post
    I'll make you a deal.

    You can have gunblades if we can have Riflebhuj.
    Checka my game-face!
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/93195-Show-your-Miqo-te-!!?p=1288461&viewfull=1#post1288461

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    Turquoise Ring -- Physical or Magical?
    It enhances Mind, maybe it's magical?
    Mind is used by Monks, maybe it's physical?
    It's a ring.. maybe it's physical?

    Sometimes it not seem so clear
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    Since when is Mnd used by Monks.

    It's pretty obvious Str Vit Dex are physical and Mnd Int Pie are magical.
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    We all know Asianie means INT
    No need to sweat the small stuff


    So I take it Armourer doesn't need any Magic Craftsmanship whatsoever then according to this?
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    FFXIV economics - 'Stupid and demand'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hachi-Roku View Post
    I'll make you a deal.

    You can have gunblades if we can have Riflebhuj.
    Checka my game-face!
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/93195-Show-your-Miqo-te-!!?p=1288461&viewfull=1#post1288461

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    Perhaps a simpler/easier approach would be:
    If the end result is an item that is equipable only by a DoM or contains any stat that is 'magical' then it uses Magic Craftsmanship. Otherwise it is normal craftsmanship?

    Not saying this is right, but maybe it is? ^^;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asiaine View Post
    Perhaps a simpler/easier approach would be:
    If the end result is an item that is equipable only by a DoM or contains any stat that is 'magical' then it uses Magic Craftsmanship. Otherwise it is normal craftsmanship?

    Not saying this is right, but maybe it is? ^^;
    That would make sense. I wonder if it's really that simple?

    It has been over a year since I wrote what was quoted in the OP, and the whole Craftsmanship versus Magical Craftsmanship thing is still a mystery.

    It would be really nice if Square Enix clarified the differences, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that day to come. ^^;
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    Well, they made my woes a bit more worrying. By including NEW equipment that supported off-hand stats (magical vs non), it suggests they wish to persist with this model.

    Which means rather than hoping it goes away and have just ONE craftsmanship stat, we still have to figure out what is magical and not.

    What do we do if we start crafting magitek items o.o?!
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