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    Player JamieRose's Avatar
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    Savage Raids are poorly designed and Enrage is fake difficulty.

    Expecting 8 people to perform 15 minutes of mechanics without losing DPS, without a single death and all this while poorly communicating is the crux of everything that makes Savage raiding a horrible experience, the icing on that inedible cake is enrage which enforces this mechanic through fake difficulty and removes any flexibility or room for error.

    It's no wonder all the toxicity in FFXIV comes from the savage raiding community, which is in turn why we have all these parsers controversies which are taking up the devs focus. This problem could easily be fixed by offering a little wiggle room for mistakes and removing the pointless enrage function but I guess that's not happening any time soon.

    Now I'll sit back and wait for all the accusations of "trolling" or me not "gitting gud" to spew forth like the contents of an overflowing toilet.
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    I guess it's a uh... savage experience? :P
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    Mortal Fist

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    wait with bated breath
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    "What do you mean I have to play properly and not die every other second or do a proper DPS rotation"

    Savage ain't that bad TBH. It's more proper play rather than playing for the parse since there are a number of fights where you can opt to go with the safe option of losing uptime on the boss as a melee for example instead of trying to thread the needle between mechanics and potentially die.

    Also what savage fight is 15 minutes long? Most fights are 10 min enrages and people were getting kills with close to a minute left till enrage with the first 4 weeks with just crafted gear.
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    Player JamieRose's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    I guess it's a uh... savage experience? :P


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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    Now I'll sit back and wait for all the accusations of "trolling" or me not "gitting gud" to spew forth like the contents of an overflowing toilet.
    Sometimes we have to overcome the truth and rise to stand against the challenge until the victory descends on our heads.
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    Enrage in savage isn't a problem if your group is even half decent at playing their jobs. Depending on gear and which specific boss it is, you can usually get by with 2-4 deaths or so. Of course, judging by the #2 post there, it seems the damage could be an issue......
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    I know this is kinda your trolling thing... but ... crying about difficult content being difficult is .. silly.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    Expecting 8 people to perform 15 minutes of mechanics without losing DPS, without a single death and all this while poorly communicating is the crux of everything that makes Savage raiding a horrible experience, the icing on that inedible cake is enrage which enforces this mechanic through fake difficulty and removes any flexibility or room for error.

    It's no wonder all the toxicity in FFXIV comes from the savage raiding community, which is in turn why we have all these parsers controversies which are taking up the devs focus. This problem could easily be fixed by offering a little wiggle room for mistakes and removing the pointless enrage function but I guess that's not happening any time soon.

    Now I'll sit back and wait for all the accusations of "trolling" or me not "gitting gud" to spew forth like the contents of an overflowing toilet.

    I'm sorry but perhaps Minecraft would be a more suitable challenge for your skill level.
    If i can clear savage fights with ease, and my skill level is dreadful, then you really don't know how to play your job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    I guess it's a uh... savage experience? :P
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