The Dead Ends is brutal for tanks, I end up quitting any random queues for this duty

[HisShadowX]

So out of all the dungeons in this game, this has to be the worst for a tank. If your Healer uses Esuna and the party doesn't stand in the wrong place it can be great but I have been in way to many runs where the tank gets hated on because the Healer is either DPSing to much and not healing or using Esuna or the DPS is just standing in the wrong spots.

When I am in this run as a Healer its fine because I just focus on healing and Esuna anything that needs it. Even with that I find most of the time the DPS will be standing in the wrong spot causing problems. If you have a DPS Healer here its just a miserable run.

I remember my last run on this duty we wiped five times on the last boss because the Healer was just to focused on DPSing and somehow that's the tanks problem. Finally the last one the Healer decides to actually focus on Healing and we finished the run.

I only play this dungeon if its on a Trust or I am playing it as a Healer. I tried it as a DPS and the piling on of tanks is just horrible. I took a couple 30 minutes time outs today as this place just isn't worth it.

Thankfully, one tank left before I entered as a tank so when I left I didn't get a time out. They need to do something with this dungeon.

[Hyuinn]

There isn't any problem with it. It's not hard keep the group alive as a tank (that is not DRK) since they all have good mitigations and a lot of heal/sustain. WAR and PLD are the best for keeping the group alive without a healer, and me and other people often run this dungeon without any healers (but I have to agree that having someone to esuna is nice if people happen to take AoEs in the first boss by accident, so we often run with a BRD).

If anything, consider using Reprisal on AoEs as often as you can, and if you're healing as PLD (as I'm assuming since your profile says so) you can do that during Requiescat to get instant heals for your DPS before your Confiteor combo, or use Intervention on them if you don't want do lose your own dps or if Requiescat is on cooldown, gives them a nice regen while there's no upcoming damage for a while. Holy Spirit also procs Divine Veil shield for them and there's also Passage of Arms that you can weave between GCDs if you manage to hit your group with it, usually good for stack mechanics since everyone should be close to you.

The few times I've let people die (usually because all mitigations were on cooldown) I've noticed I could've used Tank Limit Break before the AoE, so I'm working on that so I don't have to rely on healers at all.

[Rufalus]

I've seen multi wipe runs on that dungeon before but my datacenter has been surprisingly chill lately, no blaming people. Maybe we will get some rude people back when cross datacenter is implemented.

I prefer dungeons to have some difficulty but the run back to the boss after a wipe is ridiculous. If they are worried about people skipping the mobs before the boss then they should just make the bosses not spawn in the room until all the mobs are dead. Once the boss is activated then the checkpoint should be right there at the boss.

[HisShadowX]

There isn't any problem with it. It's not hard keep the group alive as a tank (that is not DRK) since they all have good mitigations and a lot of heal/sustain. WAR and PLD are the best for keeping the group alive without a healer, and me and other people often run this dungeon without any healers (but I have to agree that having someone to esuna is nice if people happen to take AoEs in the first boss by accident, so we often run with a BRD).

If anything, consider using Reprisal on AoEs as often as you can, and if you're healing as PLD (as I'm assuming since your profile says so) you can do that during Requiescat to get instant heals for your DPS before your Confiteor combo, or use Intervention on them if you don't want do lose your own dps or if Requiescat is on cooldown, gives them a nice regen while there's no upcoming damage for a while. Holy Spirit also procs Divine Veil shield for them and there's also Passage of Arms that you can weave between GCDs if you manage to hit your group with it, usually good for stack mechanics since everyone should be close to you.

The few times I've let people die (usually because all mitigations were on cooldown) I've noticed I could've used Tank Limit Break before the AoE, so I'm working on that so I don't have to rely on healers at all.

O_O

A tank should never be the healer for the dungeon. That some people consider this normal is horrible.

[OdinelStarrei]

Blame Square Enix for that. If the dungeon design and damage wasn't so appallingly pathetic, you wouldn't see tanks just completely steamroll entire dungeons on their own. 3 DPS, 1 Tank Expert Roulette is already the default for pre-made parties, including Dead Ends. Dungeons are tuned so low you can run around with zero healers, and it's frankly embarrassing.

There is nothing wrong with Dead Ends. I have run Dead Ends at minimum, 60 times for the minion alone, not including how often it comes up in Expert. The only thing that is even remotely problematic is the 2nd huge pull before the 1st boss on specific combinations of jobs, and even that only becomes a problem when the DPS are too slow in killing the pack, might have to use a single GCD heal or two. When I tank'd Dead Ends specifically multiple times per day for tomestones/minion, I frequently ran with healers who never used a GCD heal at all, and only kept me up with oGCDs, particularly SGE's with their insane regeneration and mitigative abilities. I have done the same on the healer end, as long as the tank is competent, even as a non-healer main. Runs around 15 minutes are the norm, not outliers. I just did one today on DRK to cap my tomes. I have not had a single person to complain about or critique my tank performance, as any tank, the entire expansion in any dungeon, nevermind Dead Ends.

I'd love to go into Ra-La to support why most people should not have any problems with it since there are only two instances of weak forced party damage that's easily made irrelevant with a party wide oGCD regen paired with plenty of downtime, but it's honestly just not worth the effort. If people get whacked by the laser, and for that matter, the debuff AoE in the 1st boss, that's the punishment. The Esunas or full heals aren't needed if you just stay out of the telegraphed ouchie zones. Even if they die, it won't matter, I'll just kill it with whatever party members remain and move on.

Have I wiped in Dead Ends before? Yes, can't remember exactly when the last time that was. Is that a bad thing? No. If you make mistakes, or someone is incapable of staying off the floor, or just can't play their level 90 job like a level 90 job, there should be a punishment, and even with the ilvl sync, the punishments in Dead Ends barely go beyond "minor inconvenience" at best.

[Lyth]

I've been queueing for Expert primarily as DPS since Endwalker's launch and have not seen any significant issues with this dungeon either. I don't think that it's a healing issue. And if players are going to run into problems, I would have expected it to be the first boss if anything.

[Azuri]

Have you tried pressing buttons?

[Argyle_Darkheart]

Literally never have any problems when I get this dungeon on Expert, regardless of what role I queue as.

[HyoMinPark]

O_O

A tank should never be the healer for the dungeon. That some people consider this normal is horrible.

I mean, using your toolkit is fairly normal, I’d say. That would include Holy Spirit/Holy Circle, which start restoring HP at level 84, and using Holy Sheltron. For WAR, it means using Bloodwhetting; for GNB, HoC. Sadly, DRK only has Abyssal Drain, but it should still be used to some self-healing boost.

I’ve done this dungeon plenty of times. The only time there’s an issue is when you have people ignoring a significant portion of their toolkit. In the case of tanks, that’s usually their mitigatives and self-healing abilities.

[Liam_Harper]

Have you tried pressing buttons?

Let's just say I have a "feeling" that the OP doesn't use Holy Spirit, Holy Circle, Arms Length, Reprisal, Goring Blade, Fight or Flight or Low Blow at all, mostly ignores Intervene and maybe uses 2-3 Rampart and Sentinel per Expert.

Just a "hunch".

I'm sure it's those evil dps healers really.