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    Raikai's Avatar
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    [Suggestion] Let us glamour 1-hand WHM and BLM weapons over the 2-handers

    It kind of pains me to see so many 1h weapons that will go to waste because they are essentially useless to glamour. I would love if we could do it with the cudgels, wands, scepters from both these jobs. Not to mention it renders the respective arms from XIII"s collab useless as well (and they're surprisingly still for sale at the Mogstation).

    Maybe there's some technical issue wich may explain why we could never do this? But then, it's been so long since ARR, and a lot has changed - maybe there is a workaround for this nowadays.
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    Lihtleita Lonstyrmwyn
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    there are still one handed mage weapons being sold on the store for real money that they havent thought about updating at all in half a decade?

    wow thats pretty bad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lihtleita View Post
    there are still one handed mage weapons being sold on the store for real money that they havent thought about updating at all in half a decade?

    wow thats pretty bad
    Yeah... Not gonna lie, when I was still a sprout, once I got a quick understanding of how the cosmetic system worked, I went to the Mogstation to get myself a couple of glamours for general use and since I was a Conjurer, I chose the wand from FF XIII collab in the mogstation because it looked cool enough. I know there's a disclaimer on the purchasing page that the wand can't be glamoured into 2-hand weapons, but the sprout me didn't realize back then that past level 50 there are zero options for 1h weapons for WHM.

    Was a cheap purchase, yeah, but still... sucks not to be able to use it up to this day. And sadly WHM and BLM are the only jobs that face this issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    sprout me didn't realize back then that past level 50 there are zero options for 1h weapons for WHM.
    Hilariously, there is a (sort-of) exception at level 80.

    In Bozja, your gear has zero relevance to your functional stats; everyone is synced to level 80 with a specific set of stats for their job, with only any Bozjan stats on the gear (e.g. Haste) making a difference. This means it does not matter what you equip in Bozja. (As long as you equip something.)

    As a result, a WHM or BLM can happily run around in there using a 50-or-lower one-handed weapon and a shield, and it will work, and have no effect whatsoever on their stats or the potency of their casts. Moreover, because you have the shield equipped, it does enable parry just like at low levels. It's almost entirely useless, because in this game's system you cannot parry while casting, and you will basically always be casting... but you can absolutely equip a one-handed weapon and a shield as a WHM or BLM in Bozja and use it completely viably.

    So, if you wanted the one place you can still use that XIII collab glamour at a high level...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    Hilariously, there is a (sort-of) exception at level 80.

    In Bozja, your gear has zero relevance to your functional stats; everyone is synced to level 80 with a specific set of stats for their job, with only any Bozjan stats on the gear (e.g. Haste) making a difference. This means it does not matter what you equip in Bozja. (As long as you equip something.)

    As a result, a WHM or BLM can happily run around in there using a 50-or-lower one-handed weapon and a shield, and it will work, and have no effect whatsoever on their stats or the potency of their casts. Moreover, because you have the shield equipped, it does enable parry just like at low levels. It's almost entirely useless, because in this game's system you cannot parry while casting, and you will basically always be casting... but you can absolutely equip a one-handed weapon and a shield as a WHM or BLM in Bozja and use it completely viably.

    So, if you wanted the one place you can still use that XIII collab glamour at a high level...
    Oh, that's cool! Thanks for letting me know! Alas I've done Bozja content ad nauseum to farm for the Al-likil mount and I swore to the RNG universe that after running Castrum 74 times for the last Field Note I needed, I'd never step foot there in the foreseeable future (trying the duel was just as miserable).
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    I'm still holding out on the hope that the reason they haven't updated the use of 1-handed wands/cudgels for WHM and BLM is that they'll repurpose them for a new job solely using wands as their main weapon, maybe for a ranged magic dps or something unique SE will create.

    Similarly, if anyone remember in the 2.0 days, Gladiators could use 1-handed daggers and once Ninja was released in 2.4, all the daggers were redirected to the Rogue/Ninja job. I'm hoping wands will have a similar result and not be a wasted and forgotten aspect of the game.
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    The only issue I can think of with this maybe the way your character holds the weapon could be weird in certain animations. Sorry if like how the Makai Hand Mortar is for MCH. In certain animations, your character still holds it like it's a rifle even though there's nothing to grab.

    Totally agree tho, they either need to redo the weapons as 2h and just get rid of the shields for early levels or make them glammable somehow. They could all lays adjust stats for early gear to compensate for the lack of shield.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrognakLibrarian View Post
    The only issue I can think of with this maybe the way your character holds the weapon could be weird in certain animations. Sorry if like how the Makai Hand Mortar is for MCH. In certain animations, your character still holds it like it's a rifle even though there's nothing to grab.

    Totally agree tho, they either need to redo the weapons as 2h and just get rid of the shields for early levels or make them glammable somehow. They could all lays adjust stats for early gear to compensate for the lack of shield.
    But looking at the current animations... The mages hold the staff the same way they hold a wand, and the casting animations are essentially the same, the only difference is the sheathing animation because the wands will go on your waist, while the staves on your back.
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    Wait, we still can't do that? I just assumed it happened without ceremony a couple of years ago.
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    I would be sooo happy if they made one-handed weapons + a shield a thing again, or at least a glamour option. I love that aesthetic!
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