Thread: Credit the people who made the tools you are looking at, Yoshida

I have a feeling at some point in a live letter we're going to get an earful about the UI, so I wanted to get ahead of that and say this in particular:

Credit the people who made the tools you're looking at. It's something I feel is important because for one, it credits the community for taking the time to create the tool itself(despite it being a mere UI adjustment in the case of SimpleTweaks and Dalamud) and shows how strong the community can be in the case the devs decide they aren't going to handle it.

It also stands to fact that they ignored a UI adjustment for 6 Months, a simple one to show buff/debuff timers in the party list. However they decide to adjust the UI for those requests, I'm hoping they don't botch it or kick the idea to the curb. 3rd Party Tools are usually made for this reason alone: Because the developers don't listen except when things are on fire.

you are missing the point.

you will rarely see credit given to those that are breaking the rules.

do they address the perceived or actual lack of something in game, sure. but the fact remains they also break the ToS in doing so. I do not think "thanks" are really something that will be forthcoming.

another one huh

Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima

I have a feeling at some point in a live letter we're going to get an earful about the UI, so I wanted to get ahead of that and say this in particular:

Credit the people who made the tools you're looking at. It's something I feel is important because for one, it credits the community for taking the time to create the tool itself(despite it being a mere UI adjustment in the case of SimpleTweaks and Dalamud) and shows how strong the community can be in the case the devs decide they aren't going to handle it.

It also stands to fact that they ignored a UI adjustment for 6 Months, a simple one to show buff/debuff timers in the party list. However they decide to adjust the UI for those requests, I'm hoping they don't botch it or kick the idea to the curb. 3rd Party Tools are usually made for this reason alone: Because the developers don't listen except when things are on fire.

You will be waiting through Hell and high water for those credits. They are already pissed that they need to do any more hard work on stuff that should have been implemented into the game years and years ago. Be called off your high horse and make some people pissed off. But you will get no thanks for anything. Sorry.

Originally Posted by RobynDaBank

Hard to take you seriously when you said those two phrases. Made me discard the rest of what you said quite quickly. Which AddOn have you created?

Yeah that is why I edited the post. I got pretty angry at being so thankless for the hard work ppl put in, ngl, so I went overboard a bit, and I own that. But the point stands, credit to the community effort.

While it would be nice and fair of yoshi to do that (something about that would show some integrity after all this crap would go a long way in customer relations), I dont think it will happen. What will happen is modders probably poking fun at it as sort of revenge in some fashion.

sometimes innovation requires breaking archaic rules
good modding will always be a thankless job

Originally Posted by Darksummoner

Now this is some anger. I recommend maybe some gym time. Hitting the weights help with all that anger. maybe some music or meditation. Never the less you need to get that under control or one of the angry Karen's on here will get you banned

karen vs karen.
Now that I'd pay to see

I thought we were done with the hot takes?