Public Discussion: Community Feedback - Is it being heard?

[KizuyaKatogami]

With Sage being added that has a bit more combat focus

I’m not sure where people get this from. Sage has quite literally the same amount of dps abilities as ast. Just because they can heal at the same time they dps doesn’t mean they’re more combat focused. Otherwise i guess sch is more combat focused because of eos. They tell us every expansion healers will heal more and it’s never true. They said it in ShB, it wasn’t true. They said it in this expansion. and it wasn’t true in fact it was actually far worse because tanks now have way more mitigation, self healing, and almost every dps job now has either multiple mitigation tools and heals. Let me put it this way. How would all you dps and tank players feel if for 90% of a fight all you could do is press 1. Rdm you spam jolt. Blm you spam nothing but fire. Y’all would be in shambles. People are already shitting on the devs just for the removal of Kaiten. Meanwhile healers only have 1 button to press for 90% of a fight. And it’s been this way for 4+ years now.

[Shougun]

I’m not sure where people get this from. Sage has quite literally the same amount of dps abilities as ast. Just because they can heal at the same time they dps doesn’t mean they’re more combat focused. Otherwise i guess sch is more combat focused because of eos. They tell us every expansion healers will heal more and it’s never true. They said it in ShB, it wasn’t true. They said it in this expansion. and it wasn’t true in fact it was actually far worse because tanks now have way more mitigation, self healing, and almost every dps job now has either multiple mitigation tools and heals. Let me put it this way. How would all you dps and tank players feel if for 90% of a fight all you could do is press 1. Rdm you spam jolt. Blm you spam nothing but fire. Y’all would be in shambles. People are already shitting on the devs just for the removal of Kaiten. Meanwhile healers only have 1 button to press for 90% of a fight. And it’s been this way for 4+ years now.

My impression of playing it at least. Also I do agree there is a weird problem with healers, that wasn't really fixed in EW. As I said in my post my thoughts were the first few weeks when everyone is under synced it's mostly fine but as everyone makes healer's role less relevant it's not a good situation. Especially since like if people get more damage or tank better they do their role better but all that directly impacts healer being less important. My suggestions ranged from new gearing systems (changing defense growth / etc), more support skills, making one of the healers more aggressive, etc.

For me, as someone who doesn't really live to play a healer role, I like being crazy simple white mage cause I feel it's easy to be good lol (no one dies, you deal damage easily).. but for those who live for the role and are also fairly skilled (bad healers in your group can still cause trouble in the game, they're not entirely pointless- just easily made pointless by someone who is half decent at being a healer), I /can/ see how they might not be feeling like they're not living in paradise.

Noted the sentiment enough I made a sort of eldritch blood mage healer that would ideally have mostly offensive moves (one of which was attacking the enemy to heal your ally.... so again another moment where they might have taken feedback). Of course in my mind most of the kit would have been offensive. I didn't count the sage skills so I apologize if it's technically not the case, but given the build of the job I did feel it was more offensive / interactive (only playing it slightly), than say WHM which is my go to "I can do that, whatever that was I can do that" (and low stress, because it feels really straight forward and lax).