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    Jekyll:Can we get some confirmation (preferably a link) that they will be taking away these fights and/or their weapons in 2.0?
    Quote Originally Posted by Cer View Post
    They are very likely to be removed as they pertain to the coming of Dalamud and the 7th Umbral Era. Yoshi himself said to experience them now while you have a chance.

    JPGAMES.DE, Frederick: To our next question: When your vision of FINAL FANTASY XIV 2.0 is realized, will there be anything left from the current game or are we going to play a whole different one?

    Yoshida Naoki: Because we made such an announcement with all the information and that particular screenshot, we have a lot of questions from around the world like: “Is FINAL FANTASY XIV 2.0 going to be totally different?” Actually, it’s not going to be a different game, it’s still FINAL FANTASY XIV, of course, and the realm of Eorzea stays at Eorzea. The only difference is, as you experience now, the umbral era event, this is really going to change the world drastically. So whatever you are experiencing now is brining the future. For example guild leves remain, but some content can only be experienced in the current game. Also, there were worries we would wipe all the character data, we won’t do anything like this. So enjoy the game now and continue when 2.0 comes out.

    JPGAMES.DE, Frederick: We definitely will.

    Yoshida Naoki: For the guild leves, all the feedback that we receive from the players will be implemented and the proper ideal of good and evil will be brought in with 2.0 as well, also the instanced raids that you are experiencing now will be different as well, but for the primal, what is happening now due to the 7th umbral era, that might not be continued with 2.0. So, what is related to the umbral era you should really experience now.
    From Here: http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/107...and-Sage-Sundi

    Thats about as close as you're going to get to a link and confirmation. I don't think the weapons will be taken away but you guys can't expect that when they tell you to experience the stuff now, a year in advance, they WON'T take stuff out. They told you this was happening. Don't act surprised. They should however make stuff start dropping quickly as the moon almost hits. They could play it off as the Primals are stronger or have more energy or w/e and drop things more often because of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cer View Post
    Thats about as close as you're going to get to a link and confirmation. I don't think the weapons will be taken away but you guys can't expect that when they tell you to experience the stuff now, a year in advance, they WON'T take stuff out. They told you this was happening. Don't act surprised. They should however make stuff start dropping quickly as the moon almost hits. They could play it off as the Primals are stronger or have more energy or w/e and drop things more often because of that.
    This is kind of like saying that the US Post Office is going to close when they announced that you will no longer be able to mail letters with 25 cent stamps. What? There are only 25 cent stamps! NO MORE MAIL OMG!!?!?!?!?!111!!

    The only content confirmed that you won't be able to obtain post-2.0 is your goobbue mount, and they were extremely explicit about that. You think they are just going to junk 3 primal battles, when the biggest problem with the game currently is lack of content? Sure, they will change the text, etc. to make it "up to date", since the current storyline will have closed by 2.0 and everything will need to make sense relative to the current storyline, but making the rather huge leap of logic that anything that references anything is going to be deleted wholesale is ridiculous (which is a charitable way of putting it).

    Unless you think it's easier to create all-new content than for them to adjust the text and whatnot.

    If you folks could kindly stop claiming wild-eyed speculation as absolute fact, maybe these forums would be less confused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiruke View Post
    This is kind of like saying that the US Post Office is going to close when they announced that you will no longer be able to mail letters with 25 cent stamps. What? There are only 25 cent stamps! NO MORE MAIL OMG!!?!?!?!?!111!!

    The only content confirmed that you won't be able to obtain post-2.0 is your goobbue mount, and they were extremely explicit about that. You think they are just going to junk 3 primal battles, when the biggest problem with the game currently is lack of content? Sure, they will change the text, etc. to make it "up to date", since the current storyline will have closed by 2.0 and everything will need to make sense relative to the current storyline, but making the rather huge leap of logic that anything that references anything is going to be deleted wholesale is ridiculous (which is a charitable way of putting it).

    Unless you think it's easier to create all-new content than for them to adjust the text and whatnot.

    If you folks could kindly stop claiming wild-eyed speculation as absolute fact, maybe these forums would be less confused.
    I have to agree with you, they never said that they are going to stop primal fights. Reading into interviews and speculation spreads like a horrible disease. The "changes" to Primals could mean just about anything...

    I'm really tired of friends freaking out because they think that either:

    a) Primals are going to get ditched
    b) weapons will no longer drop
    c) difficulty of the fight will increase

    NONE OF THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN OFFICIALLY, OR UNOFFICIALLY STATED.

    ...but for the primal, what is happening now due to the 7th umbral era, that might not be continued with 2.0. So, what is related to the umbral era you should really experience now."
    That could simply mean text/story will change >.>
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    Last edited by Neko_Yanagi; 05-29-2012 at 03:34 AM.

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    I had an alternate idea ever since the primal seals were discovered as a new item type-

    1. Make all totems/nut charms/headdress etc drops continue to operate as they do now, aka: earn a specific amount and trade in to Rowena for the weapon of choice.

    2. Make a new item drop (for all intents and purposes, let's call it a primal signet) directly into a player's inventory (cannot be traded via loot list, like weapons), and this item would drop in place of all potential weapon drops. (i.e. It would have the same rarity that any weapon drop ever had)

    3. This new item, unlike the totems or nut charms or headdresses, would have a 1:1 value when trading in to Rowena for a weapon.

    This would make it so that when an actual weapon drops, the player will always have the ability to choose which class the earned weapon will be.


    TL;DR version--

    Primal totems/headdresses/nut charm drops >>>>>>> Primal totems/headdreses/nut charm drops
    Random Primal weapon drops >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Primal signet drops (exchangeable 1:1 for weapon of choice)

    thoughts?
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    Last edited by Duuude007; 05-26-2012 at 07:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    (for all intensive purposes, let's call it a primal signet)
    I liked your post but had to point out the saying is "for all intents and purposes".

    On another note I completely agree with everyone here, I don't care if it's 100% drop on totems, charms etc. or a new item that drops in place of weapons that can be exchanged for a weapon of your choice just give us something! I've been running the Moogle fight a lot; trying to get an axe, but all I've had drop so far in the past two weeks is four nut charms and a fork (which is totally useless to me). A member of my linkshell however; has received not one but two direct axe drops on the same runs as me, this makes me want to scream! especially seeing the second axe get discarded... the amount of times I've run that stupid fight now I should have a damn axe!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galliano View Post
    I liked your post but had to point out the saying is "for all intents and purposes".

    On another note I completely agree with everyone here, I don't care if it's 100% drop on totems, charms etc. or a new item that drops in place of weapons that can be exchanged for a weapon of your choice just give us something! I've been running the Moogle fight a lot; trying to get an axe, but all I've had drop so far in the past two weeks is four nut charms and a fork (which is totally useless to me). A member of my linkshell however; has received not one but two direct axe drops on the same runs as me, this makes me want to scream! especially seeing the second axe get discarded... the amount of times I've run that stupid fight now I should have a damn axe!
    I am amazed yet honored my quote has become your sig, thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    I had an alternate idea ever since the primal seals were discovered as a new item type-

    1. Make all totems/nut charms/headdress etc drops continue to operate as they do now, aka: earn a specific amount and trade in to Rowena for the weapon of choice.

    2. Make a new item drop (for all intents and purposes, let's call it a primal signet) directly into a player's inventory (cannot be traded via loot list, like weapons), and this item would drop in place of all potential weapon drops. (i.e. It would have the same rarity that any weapon drop ever had)

    3. This new item, unlike the totems or nut charms or headdresses, would have a 1:1 value when trading in to Rowena for a weapon.

    This would make it so that when an actual weapon drops, the player will always have the ability to choose which class the earned weapon will be.


    TL;DR version--

    Primal totems/headdresses/nut charm drops >>>>>>> Primal totems/headdreses/nut charm drops
    Random Primal weapon drops >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Primal signet drops (exchangeable 1:1 for weapon of choice)

    thoughts?
    I've Posted something fairly similar so i agree. main diference was that the "Signet" would be converted to weapon of choice at a "clickable thing" post fight. Like:

    Ifrit dead, chance to get "Ifrit Horn" item.
    Irfit dead, "Aether infused lava spout" spawns
    "Ifrit Horn" + "Lava Spout" = Ifrit weapon of your choice.

    Your idea would likely make it easier on SE to impliment. I liked mine mostly for the themeatic, and the Hurrah of equiping your new weapon right after the fight so everyone you killed ifrit with can Huzzah with you ^^

    TL;DR: I approve your this, and the OP. You each recive one coveted Like from me, with love ^^
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    I agree making totems 100% drop (1 totem every time you successfully clear a fight) and requiring somewhere around 10-20 totems for weapon. With 10 totems required for one weapon, it would take max 70 fights to get all weapons. I think that's enough for one fight, but wouldn't mind making it double either.

    Also, please let us pass the primal weapons! This has been asked a billion times already.
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    I'd like to point out the second post has a hidden text! Try and highlight it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    I'd like to point out the second post has a hidden text! Try and highlight it
    I don't get it the text just turns white and is highlighted in blue.
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    Removed due to size restrictions and possible seizures risks.

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