Why are there even small plots?

[Joint]

Why do we even have small plots? Nobody wants a small unless its the only option available. This was true all the way until the housing drought (which was the end of stormblood) There were tons of smalls until then The only reason they got bought is because there was nothing else available.

Why don't you replace them with mediums and ditch the smalls entirely?
Why does ANY plot get better in game benefits than the other? (garden plots specifically here).

Really that's my only gripe. They make no sense

[Caitlinzulu]

Small houses are a lot cheaper, back when housing was added to the game having enough money for a medium or mansion was very rare. Also at that time pricing was different between servers with some legacy servers having prices up to 10 times what we have now

[Joint]

Small houses are a lot cheaper, back when housing was added to the game having enough money for a medium or mansion was very rare. Also at that time pricing was different between servers with some legacy servers having prices up to 10 times what we have now

Ok , but that doesn't change anything I said. Gil was easy to come by from launch (gathering alone), not to mention how long after launch housing came out. People had tons of gil by the time housing came out. I know the prices were higher across the servers but, the buy price for a large was never over 150mil on any server legacy or not. Getting that amount of gil wasn't hard for fc's to raise, even making that much solo (albeit super rare) was being done.

[Canadane]

the buy price for a large was never over 150mil on any server legacy or not.

What?

Balmung, Excalibur, Hyperion, Ragnarok, and Sargatanas started at 312.5 million gil.
Aegis, Durandal, Gungnir, Msamune, and Ridill was 625 million.

[Joint]

What?

Balmung, Excalibur, Hyperion, Ragnarok, and Sargatanas started at 312.5 million gil.
Aegis, Durandal, Gungnir, Msamune, and Ridill was 625 million.

you're late to that party

[dspguy]

Small houses are a lot cheaper, back when housing was added to the game having enough money for a medium or mansion was very rare. Also at that time pricing was different between servers with some legacy servers having prices up to 10 times what we have now

Very true. But SE has changed a lot of things about the game since its inception. Hell, they crashed a meteor into it at some point. Just because something was a certain way in 2013 doesn't mean it has to be that way in 2022.

[Aoi_Futaba]

I just got my small, I am happy with a small, but there are certain things that could make them far better, Garden item slots, 20 is just not enough I scraped by to make a garden that fit my taste (no aetheryte or stable though not enough slots, but I have my neighbour on friend's list so I use theirs ) The interior, I do like what someone else mentioned about adding an upstairs instead of basement or how about a paid upgrade (gil) for a room upstairs, would still be smaller than a med, but an extra room is an extra room. This is the reason when I first started playing last year and saw the housing crisis I knew what would suit me was an FC house, that way I could add rooms to the house by levelling alts and each would give me an extra room which in total would mean a small house with an entry/shop area, a basement (tbh decided was going to be a bathhouse but I live right next to the spa in Ishgard so that idea is redundant) and then 8 rooms through the door in the shop so 10 room small house. For me it was honestly a stroke of luck that the lottery split the housing the way it did as small FC plots for the most-part had only one bidder. This is what 20 garden items looks like, it isn't much.

[UkcsAlias]

Garden item slots, 20 is just not enough

Keep in mind that all plots can have 20, which on any area quickly adds up to several hundreds. 30x20 is still 600 which is well above a large house in object count. Adding just 5 to a plot already adds 150 potential objects. And these must load in everytime someone wants to go to their house or apartment (because you never directly teleport inside).

Instead of adding 5 objects, i rather see any potential computer power there to be used for additional wards instead.

[Aoi_Futaba]

And these must load in everytime someone wants to go to their house or apartment (because you never directly teleport inside).

I never teleport inside because I can't teleport to my house as to do that requires one of those 20 items to be an Aetheryte, meanwhile the large houses have more to the point of excess. look at this and please tell me that the issue is adding a couple of items to small plot's gardens. Entire climbing frames in the sky yet smalls have to choose between having the ability to teleport, having a stable, having a post box etc or having something that just about resembles a garden

[Dzian]

Ok , but that doesn't change anything I said. Gil was easy to come by from launch (gathering alone), not to mention how long after launch housing came out. People had tons of time and gil by the time housing came out. I know the prices were higher across the servers but, the buy price for a large was never over 150mil on any server legacy or not. Getting that amount of gil wasn't hard for fc's to raise.

Yes it was. Because FCs didn't last long enough to raise that kind of cash. That's why the wards were so empty..

The total lack of group centric FC content along with super rigid party sizes for all content absolutely destroyed so many free companies.. and very few of those that survived could afford to buy a house..

Housing was meant to be a community thing to ge talkers working together and building bonds. Like you know an mmo.. but everything in this game discourages community, teamwork and social interaction that and pushes solo play.. right down to the msq blatantly telling you. "You cannot progress because you are in a party". or the inability to even send a simple /tell when you or someone is in a duty. Things like that along with a complete lack of free company content destroyed free companies. All they are now is a glorified chat channel...

On topic of small houses. They'd honestly be fine if they just got rid of restrictions. Why can't a small house have 2 or 3 garden plots if they want. Or other dumb restrictions like npcs or crafting benches.

Also if they scrapped the basements and gave them an upstairs in stead that'd probaly make them better. But that'd be hell of a redesign.