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    DamianFatale's Avatar
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    Arctura Fengari
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    If we don't get to explore and rebuild more of Garlmald, it will be a waste.

    I just don't see the lore getting better here. They need a Garlean style enclave type quest sequence. :/
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    I still cannot believe they did that cringey thing with cid and nero coming to sharlayan to give you a "device from valens which has refined adamantite" and gaius quite literally sitting it out at the most important moment in the history of his nation, which he loved dearly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    I still cannot believe they did that cringey thing with cid and nero coming to sharlayan to give you a "device from valens which has refined adamantite" and gaius quite literally sitting it out at the most important moment in the history of his nation, which he loved dearly.
    The problem with Gaius is that his position in the world changes drastically depending on if you've done the Werlyt story, so writing him into the MSQ would become very difficult.

    I think they're planning to do more story around Garlemald going from the all-roles quest, and if they do I can imagine them making an additional part conditional based on Werlyt's completion, like how the Shadowbringers all-roles ended up asking for the Warring Triad.

    EDIT: Also, from a more in-story logical perspective, proooooobably a good thing for Gaius to have sat the Garlemald intervention out. Remember that he was framed for Varis' death, so him turning up before we can properly clear his name and blame the genocidal ghost wizards for everything that happened would do more harm than good.
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    Last edited by Cleretic; 05-18-2022 at 09:17 PM.

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    From the way how the Garlemald Area is designed, it clearly shows that it wont be impossible to make the rebuilt of it a reality and heres my two cents on the matter:

    You see, everytime Squeenix made a restoration Site so far, was by making the whole Site, a new area-instance with either a NPC or a Teleportpoint guiding you inside. Since the actual Palace, as well as parts of the inner City is part of the Background that is connected trough arround 3 Bridges, said Bridges COULD be a possible entry point for a Restoration Site in the future.
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    Last edited by Anhra; 05-18-2022 at 06:26 PM. Reason: freaking Grammar

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    I'm remaining hopeful that they're saving Gaius' MSQ involvement for whenever we have to address the lingering issues in Ilsabard.

    The future of the Garleans is still very uncertain between them no longer having a place to call home, a lack of true governance, and a substantial part of Garlemald's armies still at large.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I'm remaining hopeful that they're saving Gaius' MSQ involvement for whenever we have to address the lingering issues in Ilsabard.

    The future of the Garleans is still very uncertain between them no longer having a place to call home, a lack of true governance, and a substantial part of Garlemald's armies still at large.
    The have a place to call home, the place they are at right now, they just need to rebuild. Goverment comes with the rebuilding and most of their army has surrendered the only active fighting is over their ancestral homeland as far as we've been told so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    The have a place to call home, the place they are at right now, they just need to rebuild. Goverment comes with the rebuilding and most of their army has surrendered the only active fighting is over their ancestral homeland as far as we've been told so far.
    I'm mostly curious how the provinces are going to respond to the sour predicament Garlemald finds itself in, because decades of animosity aren't just going to be washed away immediately and some may attempt to retaliate.

    As far their legions go, their status as far as I can recall is:

    1st: Surrendered, but now part of the restoration effort.

    IInd: Supposedly wiped out by blasphemies during the Final Days.

    IIIrd: Surrendered, but now part of the restoration effort.

    IVth: Disbanded after their defeat in Bozja and Gabranth's "death".

    Vth: Unknown

    VIth: Supposedly returned home after Regula's death, current status unknown.

    VIIth: Defeated after the Diamond Weapon laid waste to their headquarters.

    VIIIth: Unknown

    IXth: Unknown

    Xth: Surrendered, presumably intending to help with the restoration effort.

    XIth: Mentioned as being responsible for the conquest of Nagxia, otherwise unknown.

    XIIth: Defeated by the Eorzean Alliance in Ala Mhigo.

    XIIIth: Unknown

    XIVth: Defeated in Eorzea over the course of 1.0-2.0.


    That leaves the status of nearly half of them still at large, and considering how much trouble a single legion has made for us on multiple occasions, I don't think matters can be considered truly resolved until we're certain none of them stand to threaten anyone.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 05-22-2022 at 10:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I'm mostly curious how the provinces are going to respond to the sour predicament Garlemald finds itself in.


    As far their legions go, their status as far as I can recall is:

    1st: Surrendered, but now part of the restoration effort.

    IInd: Supposedly wiped out by blasphemies during the Final Days.

    IIIrd: Surrendered, but now part of the restoration effort.

    IVth: Disbanded after their defeat in Bozja and Gabranth's "death".

    Vth: Unknown

    VIth: Supposedly returned home after Regula's death, current status unknown.

    VIIth: Defeated after the Diamond Weapon laid waste to their headquarters.

    VIIIth: Unknown

    IXth: Unknown

    Xth: Surrendered, presumably intending to help with the restoration effort.

    XIth: Unknown

    XIIth: Defeated by the Eorzean Alliance in Ala Mhigo.

    XIIIth: Unknown

    XIVth: Defeated in Eorzea over the course of 1.0-2.0.


    That leaves the status of nearly half of them still at large, and considering how much trouble a single legion has made for us on multiple occasions, I don't think matters can be considered truly resolved until we're certain none of them stand to threaten anyone.
    considering how this type of events in aftermath of a war plays out often, I feel a certain amount of them may become warlords and cause long term trouble. Not to mention we do not know where the Unknown ones are deployed currently. We know Garlemald have set them in locations beyond Eorzea but we don't know where.

    I do suspect some of them maybe located in the New World so once we get there we may have to deal with them when we reach the New World in a future expansion either to convince them the war has already ended and that Garlemald needs their help with restoration or stop them from causing trouble due to their new Warlord mentality in the New World.

    As for the IVth, I doubt we have seen the last of them due to how the Bozja resistance story ended. I suspect we may get a continuation of their story in 7.X era or later since it does not look like their story will continue in 6.X. My best guess their story may continue in the New World locations which may explain why this story is not being continued in 6.X but late expansion since we don't have access to the location they moved their operations to yet.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 05-19-2022 at 01:44 PM.

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    When they eventually release the associated crafter/gatherer event, they should get the Loporrits involved. That way, they can call it the Garlemald Hare Restoration project.
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    Kokoro Liliro
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    If only Garlemald had a secret stash of gold nearby... wait a minute, wouldn't there be a lot of treasures and paintings and other artifacts they had accumulated? Garlemald was the wealthiest and most advanced nation in the world. They've got to at least have as much stuff to liquidate as Ala Mhigo and Thavnair did. Couldn't they auction that stuff off to pay for reconstruction costs? Hell, they're oil barons aren't they? They could just ceruleum to other countries.

    A Firmament or Doman Enclave style reconstruction of Garlemald would have been nice, but I suspect we will be lucky if we even get a tiny beast tribe daily hub camp on the moon for the Garleans with little tents setup, if anything at all.
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