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Thread: Next Weapons

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    I think this is the right approach to future job predictions, as I have observed in other threads that FFXIV job design is very centered around having a unique weapon template and animations for each job, each job has a subset of weapon terms that only it gets to use (with a very small number of exceptions, most of which come from very early ARR), and weapon glamours are a core appeal of gameplay.

    My best guesses for future jobs weapons:

    * Blitzball - Likely accompanying a slight Scouting rework. Extremely likely after GNB because of being *the* archetypal FFX job with three characters and a minigame to pull ideas from. And we don't have an "athlete" job archetype, so the design space is generally untouched.
    * Whip - Flails, Scourges, Chains, Tails, Hooks, Claws, Morningstars -- just a very open design space at the moment. Could be dual whips. Could have a weight at the end. Something whippy is very likely. I also suspect this would be the Trainer/BST job, because why else would it have not been used for BLU when they had the chance?
    * Mallet - I don't think we will get a Greathammer/Warhammer job since that maps too cleanly onto WAR, but I do think we could get a slightly lighter two-handed mallet/gavel (mace, sledge, etc.) job for a Green Mage. Make the head of the hammer the a crystal focus as a kind of inverse to RDM's sword-pommel focus.

    I don't think we are as likely to get a dual-wield sword job so much as a dual-wield Judge job, where the staves can have any combination of swords, axes, maces, etc. etc. We already have five sword jobs, and I don't expect the devs will waste an opportunity to feature more unique weapon designs AND a popular FFXII archetype on just swords. This also gels with the idea that Judge really wants to be a tank job, and giving it a wider variety of options than swords would help distinguish it more. The only obstacle I see to for Judge is the weapon terms it would use, but I think like Gunbreaker (Manatrigger) and Reaper (Crux) they could scrape together a few unique names.

    Other throwaway ideas: Reflector/Mirror Illusionist/Shaman Caster. Cannon Corsair/Alchemist Pranged.
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    Last edited by SeverianLyonesse; 05-19-2022 at 03:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    AST says hi.

    It's somewhat mechanical, but it's still a magic floating orb thing.
    You reminded me that I want an emperor's starglobe where the floating cards were invisible


    as for new weapons, I'd like something whip related. DRK has a whip sword (I think from Seiryu?) and its unsheathe animation is so satisfying to watch.
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    I would very much like to see a dual wielding chain job, with a splish-splash of martial arts. The weapons can be hooks, spike balls, spearheads, claws, and yo-yos XD. I'd bet they could pull off a chain job, considering Erichthonios.
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    I wonder what the options for a "send and retrieve" sort of weapon would be. The inspiration I'm thinking of is the spear in Hades, where you send it out for one hit and then when you call it back, it hits again (usually backstabbing the enemy for extra damage). I could imagine some interesting movement/positional scenarios with something like that, but idk how it would work in an expanded fashion.

    A boomerang could be cute too, although might be too similar to dancer...

    More Hades inspiration: a shield as a primary weapon? Shield bashes, bull rushes, etc.?
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    Last edited by novamare; 05-19-2022 at 02:58 AM.

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    Most of the typical weapons are already in the game. I don't know what other jobs can be added, but some of the weapons they can add could be:

    -Mazes. Typical weapons for Cleric in western RPGs, in this game can be for a healer or a new Caster.
    -Dual Swords or Dual Axes. Maybe a new Melee class.
    -Bells. A weapon usually wield by the FF class Geomancer, another potential caster class. In Dark Souls, bells are for Miracles and Curses, can go for that too.
    -Hammers or Giant clubs. A tank or a melee DPS can use this.
    -Rackets, not the tennis ones, but the Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles ones. Maybe way too cartoon, but could work for a melee class.
    -Dual guns, like Yuna from Final Fantasy X or Sazh Katzroy form Final Fantasy XIII, for a new physical ranged DPS.
    -Whips. I am not sure what class can do this. Maybe Beast master, but that would sound like a limited class, since Yoshida said that pet classes are a pain in the ass and don't want more. Maybe a Exorcist/Demon Hunter class, something inspired in Castlevania Belmont clan.
    -Puppets and/or Dolls: Puppet master as class or something similar that uses puppets or dolls to attack. Can be done without need to be a pet class. Just similar to summoner you can rotate your dolls and that. But maybe, would be too similar to summoner this way.
    -Whatever weapon she is using, like a half moon blade. However she is a Witch, so, a melee caster or semi-melee like Red mage, who knows.

    Of course there are a lot of weapons, but the way too add it, I have no idea.
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    Last edited by Xlantaa; 05-19-2022 at 04:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    AST says hi.

    It's somewhat mechanical, but it's still a magic floating orb thing.
    Uhmm more like the orb from Aion(sorcerer) or the orb from PWI(psychic)
    Astro is a disc btw
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    I would like to see Geomancer as a Caster DPS, and it's weapon being a combination Instrument/Striker held in separate hands similar to how RDM weapon is two separate parts. There are plenty of examples in cultures around the world: Native decorative drums and sticks, Asian gongs and mallets, European bells and hammers, ect.
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    I rly want a whip/sword weapon like Ivy in Soul Calibur in a MMO.
    Other than that I wish we had a '' gunner '', MCH doesn't quite feel like it and I am not a fan of how you're pulling out drills and saws etc it feels weird to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keichirou View Post
    Uhmm more like the orb from Aion(sorcerer) or the orb from PWI(psychic)
    Astro is a disc btw
    No, AST is an astrolabe/planisphere. It is a 3-Dimensional sphere of interconnecting circles.

    A weapon may condense when sheathed but that does not change what shape it is when active.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    AST says hi.

    It's somewhat mechanical, but it's still a magic floating orb thing.
    When I meant orb I was thinking more like what Kael'thas has. Instead of holding it in our hand it will float around and then when we use it it transforms into different things like weapons (giant swords to deal a line aoe or something like that) or portals for void minions to come out of.
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