CC Rank should be linked to job

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I agree, there should be a derank. I don't think it should be as simply as "you're out of stars, fall down 1" but maybe a "you're out of stars, if you lose 4 outta the next 5, you derank. People get on strings of bad luck. Maybe thats even to easy, maybe it's 3 outta next 5......but there needs to be a way to force people to try. I think linking rank to job in conjuction with this fix might just do that.

[Gserpent]

I agree, there should be a derank. I don't think it should be as simply as "you're out of stars, fall down 1" but maybe a "you're out of stars, if you lose 4 outta the next 5, you derank. People get on strings of bad luck. Maybe thats even to easy, maybe it's 3 outta next 5......but there needs to be a way to force people to try. I think linking rank to job in conjuction with this fix might just do that.

That would be a pretty solid system to work off of. I'd also expand the amount of points you can win and lose based on total point discrepancy as well, to make losing games in Crystal potentially more harmful to your rating. Getting into and maintaining Crystal status should be meaningful. Making it so that Crystals can only face against other Crystals and you can de-rank out of Crystal (I would start people over at Diamond 5 with no stars, even) would make it more competitive and make Crystal, at least, be slightly more effective for measuring player skill levels.

I definitely don't like that Crystal status is basically a freebie if you just play enough games and/or get enough lucky streaks. That's something that definitely needs to change.

[Ransu]

I think the main reason you don't derank out of crystal is because its basically a completely different rating system from all the other tiers and the devs probably fear that people would reach crystal and then just stop playing if ranking out of it is possible. That said, outside of crystal I think deranking back a tier is perfectly fine, but I have no problem with crystal ranks staying in crystal once you reach it due simply to the fact that crystal has its own rating system.

[KickRox]

It would be an improvement but I'm not convinced it would entirely solve the issue. But it would be an improvement, so definitely let's at least start there.

Yea I’m in agreement with you that it’s not a complete fix; but I think it the closest we get to solving it without any other major changes to the system. It’s also the “evil you know” in that it’s been implemented before with results that serious players know and trust (to a reasonable degree) firsthand.

But some people new to FF14 PvP; oof they’re not going to like it. Which quite honestly is a good thing. The only reason not to like it, is because players can’t casually practice on jobs they aren’t proficient with, which is exactly what we are trying to eradicate from high-level play.

But, as you said, it’s a start.

[KickRox]

I agree, there should be a derank. I don't think it should be as simply as "you're out of stars, fall down 1" but maybe a "you're out of stars, if you lose 4 outta the next 5, you derank. People get on strings of bad luck. Maybe thats even to easy, maybe it's 3 outta next 5......but there needs to be a way to force people to try. I think linking rank to job in conjuction with this fix might just do that.

I can get behind this. Almost the other side of the “streak bonus” coin. I agree: Let’s not toss everyone back to diamond who has a rough couple of rounds but nothing wrong with a metaphorical “ listen, you might want to tighten up and get on a job you can win with because if you lose three more in a row, you either: don’t belong in this tier or you’re not giving your four teammates a fair shot at winning,” de-ranking system.

[ThaCa]

They should have the rating system from get-go and have few more variables for gaining and losing rating so it isn't completely binary. They could still keep winstreak bonuses for lower ranks that get reduced the higher rank you hit.