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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gserpent View Post
    there's a real limit to how much you can learn. Believe me, I've tried to learn new classes there and it's not always a good place to do it. It's enough to learn a few basic runs through the class's rotation and stuff, but it's not going to be able to show you stuff you need to know to play against competent players.
    Game sense & knowledge do transfer. And you make it sound like learning a job with 6~8 buttons is rocket science. You're clearly being disingenuous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nytes View Post
    its to help those people truely trying to climb […] I hear of people playing 500-600 games in diamond, and half the time they are seeing this is what is causing their back and forth so much.
    Have you ever thought maybe that’s where they belong? If they’re still stuck in diamond after 500 games they should consider themselves lucky they can’t derank. Instead, these miserable snivelers will reject introspection, blame constant bad-luck, make sh*t up and throw self-pity parties for themselves on here. Avoid taking such stories at face value.
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    Last edited by Petite; 05-19-2022 at 09:08 AM.

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    Nyte Shayd
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petite View Post


    Have you ever thought maybe that’s where they belong? If they’re still stuck in diamond after 500 games they should consider themselves lucky they can’t derank. Instead, these miserable snivelers will reject introspection, blame constant bad-luck, make sh*t up and throw self-pity parties for themselves on here. Avoid taking such stories at face value.
    Oh, I am not argueing this point at all. As I climbed through diamond though, it was bluntly apparent that sometimes the inability to derank was giving people the "option" to play something totally new, thus wrecking the chances of somebody else trying to push higher who may or may not deserve the rank they are trying to obtain.

    I would also be lying if I said I have not considered trying out some new jobs while I'm crystal with low points before I try to climb the score, but I don't want to devalue somebody elses chances for the convience of my own experience, so my option is to use a dummy at the pier, or play casual, yet I what I need to do is learn how the combos and such work against skilled players. Casual could provide that, sometimes, or it could provide 9 people who are on their second CC game ever and have never pvped before that.

    I just think allowing us to rank up multiple jobs differently will provide for a better over all experience for all involved, those climbing, and those trying to make the climb. It is entirely possibly for a player to be a crystal dragoon, but only a gold samarui, some people just click better with other jobs.
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    Player Gserpent's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petite View Post
    Game sense & knowledge do transfer. And you make it sound like learning a job with 6~8 buttons is rocket science. You're clearly being disingenuous.
    And yet you and I could both point to people that play like absolute garbage and don't even do basic, competent DPS rotations. I think you're the one being disingenuous to act like there isn't nuance to each class. There's a lot of difference between a MNK that's just mashing buttons and a MNK that is timing ability use for maximum effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gserpent View Post
    And yet you and I could both point to people that play like absolute garbage and don't even do basic, competent DPS rotations. I think you're the one being disingenuous to act like there isn't nuance to each class. There's a lot of difference between a MNK that's just mashing buttons and a MNK that is timing ability use for maximum effect.
    Because someone is playing badly, doesn't mean they're on an alt-job. They most likely are just bad, period. Lots of those even in crystal.

    My point was that Casual is good enough for someone to pick up a job and practice it to a competent level. Then it's perfectly fine for them to queue back in ranked Crystal and master it further. Are you gonna refute even that notion?

    But mainly, a few idiots deciding not to practice a new job before queuing ranked doesn't warrant penalizing the whole community by tying ranking to individual jobs.

    The grand majority of players quite enjoy the option to be flexible on 2-3 jobs either to play around map cycles and/or keep things fresh.


    If you can't handle a few such losses so much that you want to implement this limitation to all of us, I suggest you reflect on your misplaced sense of self righteousness and get some fresh air.
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    Last edited by Petite; 05-19-2022 at 07:54 PM.

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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petite View Post

    If you can't handle a few such losses so much that you want to implement this limitation to all of us, I suggest you reflect on your misplaced sense of self righteousness and get some fresh air.
    If you're so good with all three of those classes, why are you refusing so badly to climb all 3 of them for extra achievements and rewards anyway? It's not penalizing a community, it's giving them something extra to work towards.

    The self entitlement is to think you should be just handed something for free without having to work for it. That seems to run rampant in this game lately.
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