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  1. #171
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    Equinox Axxion
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Counter counter point:

    Third party tools are unfair, and they lead to bullying. Hows that for your victimless crimes.
    how does it lead to bulling?
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  2. #172
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Counter counter point:

    Third party tools are unfair, and they lead to bullying. Hows that for your victimless crimes.
    counter counter counter point:

    i don't need third party tools to tell that ice mage his rotation is the equivalent of a plastic enclosure that holds undesirable objects
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  3. #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Counter counter point:

    Third party tools are unfair, and they lead to bullying. Hows that for your victimless crimes.
    No they don't. The only evidence FFXIV has provided us is that people who complain endlessly about parsers are thin-skinned and spend their days inventing evil parsing strawmen in their minds to point at as "examples" of bullying.

    Harassment. Is. Already. Against. The. TOS.

    Unless a toxic casual does it, JK.
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  4. #174
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    A'nhaato Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Counter counter point:

    Third party tools are unfair, and they lead to bullying. Hows that for your victimless crimes.
    Counter counter counter point: gray
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  5. #175
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    Myrany Wilzuun
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post

    Unless a toxic casual does it, JK.
    No you are not JK. You have been on a "toxic casual" rant for pages.

    Some streamer was dumb enough to stream with his mods showing. Someone reported and he got busted for it. Predictable. The rule for years has been turn a blind eye until its brought to attention with prove they can verify. Not surprising the streamer paid the price.

    Not all casuals are toxic. Not all casuals that want nothing to do with parsers are "bad players." I look up my rotations. I wear the best gear I can get at the time (usually crafted because I am often 10 levels above where I am in the MSQ so cant get appropriate tomestone gear). I give 100% effort in any group content I do.

    I simply refuse to have anything to do with parsers. I do not want to see one or have anyone else see my parses. I used a parser for years in another game. It absolutely ruined the game for me. I stressed so much if I made the smallest mistake that led me too be even a tiny bit below my optimal. I am done with min/maxing to that level.

    I do MSQ group content. I want to do every raid at the minimal level and no more. I stay in my lane. So if they were to put a parser in I want to not see it and remove myself from being parsed as well. As I do not want to be pushed (and it would for me even if it is someone pointing out my parse on his meter) back into the min/max mentality that destroys MY fun.

    Sorry I do not think that is toxic of me hence NOT a toxic casual

    Edit: I know full well by this point someone has parsed me. They had the good sense to keep it to themselves so they didn't get busted. That leaves me the illusion of not being parsed. If a parser is in game then the motivation to keep it to themselves is gone and they will say something (even if it is not in a harassing way) and that would destroy things for me.
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    Last edited by Myrany; 05-20-2022 at 12:17 PM.

  6. #176
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    Don't apply, let it fly. If you don't think you're a toxic casual then move along. But wtf is "I give 100% effort" followed by "I want to do everything at the minimal level" supposed to mean? Also, just because you don't want to be parsed doesn't mean others shouldn't be allowed to do it for their own self improvement. The world doesn't revolve around you.
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  7. #177
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrany View Post
    I look up my rotations.

    I simply refuse to have anything to do with parsers.

    By looking up your rotation, you are having something to do with parsers lol
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  8. #178
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    Myrany Wilzuun
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    Quote Originally Posted by anhaato View Post
    Don't apply, let it fly. If you don't think you're a toxic casual then move along. But wtf is "I give 100% effort" followed by "I want to do everything at the minimal level" supposed to mean? Also, just because you don't want to be parsed doesn't mean others shouldn't be allowed to do it for their own self improvement. The world doesn't revolve around you.
    I do everything to the best of my ability but have no intention of doing extremes or savage or ultimate. So minimal normal level is all I want to do.

    The world doesn't revolve around you either. So we will have to agree to disagree on who is allowed to see my data.
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  9. #179
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrany View Post
    I do everything to the best of my ability but have no intention of doing extremes or savage or ultimate. So minimal normal level is all I want to do.

    The world doesn't revolve around you either. So we will have to agree to disagree on who is allowed to see my data.
    If you don't want to do the content, why engage in this thread? It clearly doesn't affect you or your playstyle. Your numbers are irrelevant outside of said content.
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  10. #180
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    Myrany Wilzuun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    By looking up your rotation, you are having something to do with parsers lol
    Am I seeing MY parses or having them spewed back to me by someone else? No, therefore it does not set off the crap that ruins games for me.
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