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    Quote Originally Posted by Lihtleita View Post
    absolutely play stupid games win stupid prizes.

    but at the same time we have to acknowledge some of the add ons were used to address a weakness in game design, and reporting players for having a minor aesthetic change is petty and cringe.

    take house furniture floating for example. you can either A) exploit in-game glitches, or B) use a plugin to do the same thing faster,
    everyone in the housing community does floating in some capacity, yoshi p has even visited and handed out prizes for some of these builds but under "misuse of bugs" section of the tos, it is illegal to use either of the above methods
    they dont hand out bans to home designers because they recognise what they do is benign and enriches the game in some ways
    Point is SE is well within their rights to punish them for such. Point still remains breaking rules for whatever reason noble or otherwise is still breaking the rules.

    I just do not get why the intent matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    Point is SE is well within their rights to punish them for such. Point still remains breaking rules for whatever reason noble or otherwise is still breaking the rules.

    I just do not get why the intent matters.
    should we ban everyone who floats anything in housing then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lihtleita View Post
    should we ban everyone who floats anything in housing then?
    It is not a question if should. Point is if SE wants to ban people for such a thing they can. A broken rule is a broken rule and comes with inherent risks. Why is that so hard for people to understand? Sure certain rules are dumb but nevertheless, one should not be shocked if they get introuble for breaking an agreement which is the ToS. We can whine and cry about how it is unfair but let us be real it is clearly written in said ToS.

    As I said point is SE is well within their rights to ban people for such things. You can disagree with the rules but rules are rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    It is not a question if should. Point is if SE wants to ban people for such a thing they can. A broken rule is a broken rule and comes with inherent risks. Why is that so hard for people to understand? Sure certain rules are dumb but nevertheless, one should not be shocked if they get introuble for breaking an agreement which is the ToS. We can whine and cry about how it is unfair but let us be real it is clearly written in said ToS.

    As I said point is SE is well within their rights to ban people for such things. You can disagree with the rules but rules are rules.
    .....so exactly what i said. play stupid games win stupid prizes but the rules are dumb
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    It is not a question if should. Point is if SE wants to ban people for such a thing they can.
    The question of "can" should never outright preclude the question of "should".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    The question of "can" should never outright preclude the question of "should".
    It is a faceless company, can really is the only thing that matters. Should they do such things, I do not think so. Point I am making is that they can and well within their rights to do so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lihtleita View Post
    .....so exactly what i said. play stupid games win stupid prizes but the rules are dumb
    Sure it is a dumb rule but let us be real most feedback ia not how x rule is dumb it is more so crying how SE should not punish people for breaking said dumb rule.
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    Last edited by Bobby66; 05-19-2022 at 10:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    Point I am making is that they can and well within their rights to do so.
    OK, thanks for that startling revelation. Really contributed to the discussion.
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    Numbers are scary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwingLifeAway View Post
    OK, thanks for that startling revelation. Really contributed to the discussion.
    If it was obvious why are people getting upset about being punished for breaking rules? Or better yet why get upset towards the ones doing the reporting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    You can disagree with the rules but rules are rules.
    Then we should all be banned for relying on Windows, a 3rd party platform, to play this game.
    And yeah, I know, blah blah blah, YoU'Re nOT bEiNg seRiOUs, holier-than-thou-but-only-in-the-right-way-lorem-ipsum-doset.
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