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  1. #131
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    SwingLifeAway's Avatar
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    Oberon Astraxis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    paying a subscription does not give you the right to break the rules.
    Yes but it means that I should be able to criticize it without random casuals trying to control how I enjoy my content with their irrelevant opinions
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  3. #132
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    Lihtleita Lonstyrmwyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    Questioned yes, but also someone should not be shocked if they are punished or be mad at those that report someone for breaking the rules.
    absolutely play stupid games win stupid prizes.

    but at the same time we have to acknowledge some of the add ons were used to address a weakness in game design, and reporting players for having a minor aesthetic change is petty and cringe.

    take house furniture floating for example. you can either A) exploit in-game glitches, or B) use a plugin to do the same thing faster,
    everyone in the housing community does floating in some capacity, yoshi p has even visited and handed out prizes for some of these builds but under "misuse of bugs" section of the tos, it is illegal to use either of the above methods
    they dont hand out bans to home designers because they recognise what they do is benign and enriches the game in some ways
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  4. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwingLifeAway View Post
    Yes but it means that I should be able to criticize it without random casuals trying to control how I enjoy my content with their irrelevant opinions
    O my. Some of the Karen's will think those are fighting words. They will want you to bow to them and tell them EVERYTHING you have on your computer...
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  5. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    Authority should always be questioned and not blindly followed.
    To what end? Create change or just be an anarchist? We're talking about rules...not a government.

    Rules are a part of life. You break them and there's consequences. End of story. Been that way since forever....
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    "Wherever you go, there you are." ~ Buckaroo Bonzai

  6. #135
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    Quote Originally Posted by D6Damager View Post
    To what end? Create change or just be an anarchist? We're talking about rules...not a government.

    Rules are a part of life. You break them and there's consequences. End of story. Been that way since forever....
    Sorry, we didn't know these rules were inscribed in stone.

    Quote Originally Posted by SwingLifeAway View Post
    3 copies of every episode of The Big Bang Theory ever made
    Now THIS should be a bannable offense.
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    Last edited by YukiB; 05-18-2022 at 11:36 PM.

  7. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darksummoner View Post
    O my. Some of the Karen's will think those are fighting words.
    Lmao idc, they are not here to have a discussion, they are here to post their shitty opinion to feel all good and fuzzy about themselves. There is no point in trying to convince or educate them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darksummoner View Post
    They will want you to bow to them and tell them EVERYTHING you have on your computer...
    3 copies of every episode of The Big Bang Theory ever made
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  8. #137
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    Enju Abbagliato
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    I thought this was a game that was supposed to be fun and you're treating it like a professional job. Players should be punished in MSQ and normal raid content -- why? To appease you?
    If you want to make a caricature of my post, that's on you. My opinion isn't popular because it calls out people who do not care, and I'm well aware of that, but you can at least take the post in context instead of use hyperbolic drivel on someone you know nothing about, and will know nothing about.

    There's plenty of other games that let you play how you like and do such. This is an MMO. An MMO you play with other people, and progress is to be measured and tested in pve content. A 'punishment' in this case is failing and having to try again at the same difficulty, which if it were me, I would up the difficulty from normal story on MSQ and lock it there, probably up by half of a difficulty. If asking people to play at a decent (not great, decent) level is too much to ask, then there is no helping people.

    Is learning an opener, knowing how to aoe and a basic idea of cooldown usage with a better in game tutorial a 'job' to you? I wouldn't have these changes without MSQ/Job quest changes to explain such. If you want the short reason, I think the difference between the lowest and highest is too extreme and that SE is going about it the wrong way in order to fix it, if they're trying at all to do that. I say raising the floor by having people learn to play is the best way to do so.
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    Last edited by Enjuden; 05-19-2022 at 01:48 AM.

  9. #138
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    To be clear, the type of harassment that is happening - the organized harassment campaigns directed towards content creators - violates the ToS as well. I sincerely hope that every time one of these report campaigns targets someone... both sides get punished. Ya, the content creator who had on-screen overlays deserves to be punished. But so do the people who orchestrated a coordinated harassment campaign of reports. Because both sides of that equation are problematic.
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  10. #139
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Breaking a ToS is like downloading mp3s. No one except the IP holder and someone with an axe to grind cares, lol.
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  11. #140
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lihtleita View Post
    absolutely play stupid games win stupid prizes.

    but at the same time we have to acknowledge some of the add ons were used to address a weakness in game design, and reporting players for having a minor aesthetic change is petty and cringe.

    take house furniture floating for example. you can either A) exploit in-game glitches, or B) use a plugin to do the same thing faster,
    everyone in the housing community does floating in some capacity, yoshi p has even visited and handed out prizes for some of these builds but under "misuse of bugs" section of the tos, it is illegal to use either of the above methods
    they dont hand out bans to home designers because they recognise what they do is benign and enriches the game in some ways
    Point is SE is well within their rights to punish them for such. Point still remains breaking rules for whatever reason noble or otherwise is still breaking the rules.

    I just do not get why the intent matters.
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