If you don't like being target for violating TOS...how about don't violate the TOS?

[Bobby66]

Authority should always be questioned and not blindly followed.

Questioned yes, but also someone should not be shocked if they are punished or be mad at those that report someone for breaking the rules.

That is the problem with cheaters and rule breakers now many want all the benefits with none of the risks. Then try to deny it up and down instead of just owning up to it.

I say this as a filthy cheater in many games. OP is right we lose all rights to being a victim once we willfully break the rules.

[SwingLifeAway]

Questioned yes, but also someone should not be shocked if they are punished or be mad at those that report someone for breaking the rules.

Maybe in an authoritarian state? But this is a fucking video game we pay a subscription for lmfao

[Kes13a]

Maybe in an authoritarian state? But this is a fucking video game we pay a subscription for lmfao

paying a subscription does not give you the right to break the rules.

[SwingLifeAway]

paying a subscription does not give you the right to break the rules.

Yes but it means that I should be able to criticize it without random casuals trying to control how I enjoy my content with their irrelevant opinions

[Lihtleita]

Questioned yes, but also someone should not be shocked if they are punished or be mad at those that report someone for breaking the rules.

absolutely play stupid games win stupid prizes.

but at the same time we have to acknowledge some of the add ons were used to address a weakness in game design, and reporting players for having a minor aesthetic change is petty and cringe.

take house furniture floating for example. you can either A) exploit in-game glitches, or B) use a plugin to do the same thing faster,
everyone in the housing community does floating in some capacity, yoshi p has even visited and handed out prizes for some of these builds but under "misuse of bugs" section of the tos, it is illegal to use either of the above methods
they dont hand out bans to home designers because they recognise what they do is benign and enriches the game in some ways

[Bobby66]

absolutely play stupid games win stupid prizes.

but at the same time we have to acknowledge some of the add ons were used to address a weakness in game design, and reporting players for having a minor aesthetic change is petty and cringe.

take house furniture floating for example. you can either A) exploit in-game glitches, or B) use a plugin to do the same thing faster,
everyone in the housing community does floating in some capacity, yoshi p has even visited and handed out prizes for some of these builds but under "misuse of bugs" section of the tos, it is illegal to use either of the above methods
they dont hand out bans to home designers because they recognise what they do is benign and enriches the game in some ways

Point is SE is well within their rights to punish them for such. Point still remains breaking rules for whatever reason noble or otherwise is still breaking the rules.

I just do not get why the intent matters.

[Lihtleita]

Point is SE is well within their rights to punish them for such. Point still remains breaking rules for whatever reason noble or otherwise is still breaking the rules.

I just do not get why the intent matters.

should we ban everyone who floats anything in housing then?

[Bobby66]

should we ban everyone who floats anything in housing then?

It is not a question if should. Point is if SE wants to ban people for such a thing they can. A broken rule is a broken rule and comes with inherent risks. Why is that so hard for people to understand? Sure certain rules are dumb but nevertheless, one should not be shocked if they get introuble for breaking an agreement which is the ToS. We can whine and cry about how it is unfair but let us be real it is clearly written in said ToS.

As I said point is SE is well within their rights to ban people for such things. You can disagree with the rules but rules are rules.

[Lihtleita]

It is not a question if should. Point is if SE wants to ban people for such a thing they can. A broken rule is a broken rule and comes with inherent risks. Why is that so hard for people to understand? Sure certain rules are dumb but nevertheless, one should not be shocked if they get introuble for breaking an agreement which is the ToS. We can whine and cry about how it is unfair but let us be real it is clearly written in said ToS.

As I said point is SE is well within their rights to ban people for such things. You can disagree with the rules but rules are rules.

.....so exactly what i said. play stupid games win stupid prizes but the rules are dumb