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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Parsing is good for the sake of personal improvement, but I dislike the fact the FFLogs is an "opt out" service as opposed to "opt in" as it draws a lot more negative scrutiny from people then it would otherwise.
    I understand that to have enough samples for data, they pretty well need the logs themselves to be "opt out" rather than "opt in," but... why not at least have them be anonymous by default (until that, at least, is opted in)? The feature's right there; why wasn't it made the baseline? /sigh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    I understand that to have enough samples for data, they pretty well need the logs themselves to be "opt out" rather than "opt in," but... why not at least have them be anonymous by default (until that, at least, is opted in)? The feature's right there; why wasn't it made the baseline? /sigh
    That's what I don't understand.

    If they intend to allow people to choose whether or not they want to be part of the website and minimize toxicity at the same time, you don't slap a big sign on their profile that says "This person is hiding their logs" like a mark of shame, you ghost them entirely and don't allow them to be searched or have their name show up at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    That's what I don't understand.

    If they intend to allow people to choose whether or not they want to be part of the website and minimize toxicity at the same time, you don't slap a big sign on their profile that says "This person is hiding their logs" like a mark of shame, you ghost them entirely and don't allow them to be searched or have their name show up at all.
    To be fair, even that wouldn't do, as their logs not showing up would be equally a "mark of shame". It'd have to read instead as something like "This player has not yet claimed their logs or has not yet allowed you to follow them."

    I realize that sounds like setting the website as a whole to "opt out" by default, and from a player search perspective it is; the difference is merely that the anonymized logs are still available to fflogs' body of data for larger-sample class-comparison metrics and the like.
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